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  1. #1
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    Kassiekane's Avatar
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    Elione Skyracer
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    Mateus
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    Gladiator Lv 1

    No static, No gear

    /qqthread

    I hate how all of the 'challenging' content is only meant for those in a group, with vent channels and what not. Quite obviously, you can't do a lot of these things as a PuG because of how unorganized it is.

    Don't get me wrong though, I'm not asking for solo content or gear handouts or anything like that, I just wish that the game was a bit more inviting to lone players.

    You see, the problem is that the hardest group content gives the best gear. If you do not have any of the said gear, you are less desirable to join a static, and vise versa. You end up in this hamster wheel of always being late to get the gear you want.

    The only static I have been in was in early 2.2, and ever since then people have been out-gearing me, leaving me to be at the bottom of the competition for static opportunities.

    I seen an i100+ BLM in Ifrit HM today. I'm still i90. Nothing I can do about that.
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    Malakhim's Avatar
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    Eisen Marduk
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Actually...

    You kinda can do something about that last bit. Atma weapons and all soldiery gear are all ilvl100. Get to farming tomes.

    Otherwise, I don't know what to tell ya. This is an MMO focused on community interaction. Coil is by far the hardest content in game thus far, and it makes sense that group coordination is incredibly important, some people need Vent to do that, some people don't. If you're having trouble finding a group, then I really don't know what else you can do, sorry.
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    Astrid Merle
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Kassiekane View Post
    /qqthread

    I hate how all of the 'challenging' content is only meant for those in a group, with vent channels and what not. Quite obviously, you can't do a lot of these things as a PuG because of how unorganized it is.

    Don't get me wrong though, I'm not asking for solo content or gear handouts or anything like that, I just wish that the game was a bit more inviting to lone players.
    Well this is an MMO...


    Quote Originally Posted by Kassiekane View Post
    You see, the problem is that the hardest group content gives the best gear. If you do not have any of the said gear, you are less desirable to join a static, and vise versa. You end up in this hamster wheel of always being late to get the gear you want.
    That's the problem with players and arbitrary numbers that rate your gear really. Not really the game itself.

    People want an easy run.

    People don't want to wipe if they can help it.

    People don't want to take the time to figure out if a player is capable through trial and error.

    Gearscore, ilvl averages, specific drops etc saves lazy group makers time and effort in establishing if someone is capable.

    The guy in question has a weapon from this fight? Auto invite because there's visual evidence he's done it before. Little do they know, he probably was incapacitated in fire, or never played his current job/role in this fight.

    Had this been years ago, the old me 'wouldav'e said people wanna be carried'. That's only partially true. Mostly people want to be able to judge your worth at a glance.

    They don't care to see how fast you learn, and develop your role in an encounter.

    They don't care for someone who met DF's ilvl minimums, and then some.

    They prioritize the people who already been geared from that very fight because they can trust them to do it again.
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    Last edited by fanservice; 05-11-2014 at 12:41 AM. Reason: Post character limits are dumb

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    Vladislav's Avatar
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    Vladislav Bahamut
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    Balmung
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    Well wait a bit , Yoshi said that they do something for low man or maybe even more solo content , give it a time . I bit dissapointed by game it is atm , in FFXI even in solo/duo scenario was totally possible to obtain about best gears , even more pissibilities opened after 75 cap raise . Also in XI theres no content locks (allmost no) , here we locked by unable to get statics and other locks. I just hope atm in furute game get's bit more open for all kind of players (not only for hardcore/no lifers) , i feel game going in that direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fanservice View Post
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    Yeah... everything you said is true. I'm at wits end.
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    Nira Muzyka
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    Diabolos
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Start looking for some people with a like mindset as you and form your own static.
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  7. #7
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    Astrid Merle
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladislav View Post
    I just hope atm in furute game get's bit more open for all kind of players (not only for hardcore/no lifers) , i feel game going in that direction.
    I never did understand the term 'hardcore', and the term 'no-lifer' is used too loosely.

    Just because someone has progressed through most of current content doesn't mean they spend most of their waking hours on the game. It means;

    they effectively used their time in game
    they're competent
    they're playing with other competent players

    This game isn't hard, nor is it that grindy unless you want to bring up the optional atma weapons. In a month of average playtime, a person can go from fresh character to ilvl90ed main job with all usable cross class abilities, zenith weapon, and be ready for the 2nd coil. You don't need to be a NEET. Just because someone progressed farther than you doesn't mean they have nothing else to do with themselves in life.
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    Elvin Rath
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    Moogle
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    Alchemist Lv 51
    It's true, but it is how it shoud be.

    And I'm without a static right now as some of the guys I played with have left, and as a non english speaker (Yep, I can manage in writting, but TS woud be other thing ) , with very few chances of getting another, so I'm not just saying "Fuck you" cause all it's perfect to me

    The thing is that if you coud achieve the same without a proper group, people with a proper group woudn't have anything to do. And an MMO shoud be done thinking about those groups, I think. Cause without them it won't last at all.

    Anyway if you are ilvl 90 you're not even picking tomes... You coud be ilvl 95 or 96 right now without Coil, I think. Between Levi weapon & soldiery+moogle jewel...
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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Randolont Althoreaux
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Yah you can correct the last bit easily. If you've been capping soldiery and have either done Atma quest or managed a Levi EX drop then you should be well over i90. Moggle EX drops i100 neck accessories as well. I'm not sure of the PF scene on Brunhyldr but I know on Midgard there's Turn 6s up on a regular basis listed as practice parties and normally they aren't asking for people over i90. Voice chat maybe. I don't understand how you're being left behind by a static. You're i90 so no one could be better geared than you before 2.2 unless you hadn't reached i90 yet and if you weren't getting luck with drops in Coil 2 there's soldiery gear so that you keep up with ilevel. Are you sitting on all your soldiery hoping for T6+ drops? I could see a static kicking someone who isn't actively pursuing better gear outside Coil. 6 weeks out from 2.2 I would expect my static members to progress especially if we are failing a turn for reasons other than mechanics.
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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladislav View Post
    SNIP.
    Adoulin was the first expansion with NO real locks short of farming entry items and Meebles, Legion, Assaults are STILL limited to this day. Things like Dynamis, Limbus etc. for a long time not only cost gil to enter but were only doable every 72 hours so twice a week basically. Do you know how hard it was to get into a static LS for those? And they required at least 18 people. None of the best gear in the game was obtainable easily solo until Abyssea launched and even then it wasn't until at least the second part of Abyssea that certain monsters could be easily solod/duoed. Also the lockouts/timers are designed to keep the "hardcore/no lifers" from completing all content and gearing out BiS in a few days. FFXIV is designed from the top down to cater to a more casual playerbase.
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