Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
What about Tempered Will as a cross-class skill for Warrior? Remove the binding effect from Holmgang and just have the can't die function.
That's actually one of the best ideas I've read. There's some precedent for having deep skills be cross-class (Mantra is 42), but I would be concerned about putting "default" functionality into a deep cross-class ability. The fact that it's a somewhat specialized function could mitigate that problem though: if you want to be able to ignore Landslide/whatever, you're gonna need to get GLD to 42 and then choose it as a cross-class (and there are 2 "optional" slots for WAR so it's fine; if they turn the pull/bind into a legitimate Provoke, it would actually balance out completely because we wouldn't need Provoke any more).

Put Tempered Will on the CC list, and then split Holmgang into a 10 sec duration 180 sec CD cannot-die ability (that doesn't require a target) and a 6 sec 6y bind/pull on a 60-180 CD (personally, I would like to see the range extended to 15y to match Tomahawk, the CD reduces to 60 sec so that it's on a useful time frame, and make it so that you're not bound, but the bind breaks if you move at all), both of which you get at 42. To turn it into a true WAR Provoke (since it's kind of absurd, imo, that WAR has to cross-class a fundamental tank skill), they could attach that effect to the pull/bind (giving it the range and CD necessary for Provoke would definitely necessitate cutting down heavily on the bind).