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  1. #81
    Player Nomad-phx's Avatar
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    Damon Savinski
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    Weaver Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Suellen View Post
    No I would not. What I would prefer is if every individual had their own personal limit break gauge that they could use their limit break with. (obviously a weaker variant of what we have now). I'd then create special combo limit breaks that would be set off when 2 or 3 people used them at roughly the same time. (like if you hit yours while the other persons is casting theirs it will automatically combo with it.

    Is this a perfect system? probably not I'm not a professional game designer for a reason. But imho it would be better than the clunky Limit Break system we have now.
    actually now that you explain your idea im all for it. tank lb plus dps lb could do damage with a short defensive debuff for the target or something. that would actually add new levels of strategy and party composition to spare us from the tired old melee dps lb boss/caster dps lb group. youve peaked my interest lol
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  2. #82
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    Jon Bigwood
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    I think we just have to relax and take things more lightly.

    My main is PLD, second WHM, third BLM. At first playing BLM I hadn't hotkeyed the LB, I forgot, until somebody asked me to use it, I clicked and clicked and it didn't work.

    It depends very much on the place, you can be in a place you know very well (like OP in Brayflox HM) and know what to do and when, even then you may have incorrect or unneeded advice, you do what you know is best and that's it, and not get upset for it, especially playing with DF people.

    Other times you are struggling to stay alive and avoiding AoE and don't have time to look at LB bar nor maybe chat bar. A LB reminder at the chat bar may be very useful then. Many times the one who has to use the LB is too busy to read the chat bar and doesn't use the LB anyway. I've seen it many times, two or three members dead, the boss with nearly no HP, a DPS with full LB bar, the dead ones saying LB, LB at the chat window, nope, wipe. But sometimes yes, he saves the day.
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  3. #83
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    R1dder's Avatar
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    Drachen Xaela
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    I don't mind people trying to help out by calling when to LB, but a very common mistake is people thinking the LB does more damage then it actually does. LB doesnt do 15% of the bosses HP, simple as that. Even worse is some random dumbass caster wasting LB because he thinks "its about as good as the melee dps's LB".
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  4. #84
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    Itseotle Irracido
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    Diabolos
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by R1dder View Post
    I don't mind people trying to help out by calling when to LB, but a very common mistake is people thinking the LB does more damage then it actually does. LB doesnt do 15% of the bosses HP, simple as that. Even worse is some random dumbass caster wasting LB because he thinks "its about as good as the melee dps's LB".
    LB1 does about 5k in 4-man dungeons and LB2 about 10k. Anantaboga for example has roughly 80,000 HP, so LB1 is roughly 5%.
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  5. #85
    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Muhau Nbolo
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    Mateus
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Suellen View Post
    No I would not. What I would prefer is if every individual had their own personal limit break gauge that they could use their limit break with. (obviously a weaker variant of what we have now). I'd then create special combo limit breaks that would be set off when 2 or 3 people used them at roughly the same time. (like if you hit yours while the other persons is casting theirs it will automatically combo with it.

    Is this a perfect system? probably not I'm not a professional game designer for a reason. But imho it would be better than the clunky Limit Break system we have now.
    Phantasy Star Online actually had a system very similar to this (From back in the dreamcast era.) Everyone built their own sort of limit break (I think it was called Photon Blast), and you could use yours alone and it would give you a certain effect (Depending on how you raised it, you coudl get a cone attack, a single target attack, an AoE fire attack, a heal, a single-target buff)

    The fun came in when you all synchronized it. If you started casting your Photon Blast, and someone else started casting theirs, they would 'link' together. This would allow them to enhance and share beneficial effects to buff the entire party.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8B_Iazkhec

    In this case, they did a photon blast using 2 attacks and a single-buff. The buff was shared with those who did it, and it gives a max-level buff instead of the one they currently had running. (Also, I used this video because BURNING RANGERS is awesome!)
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  6. #86
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    Altani Dotharl
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    It's funny because I just saw a thread about someone wanting to know how to give advice to tanks that will not listen to them.

    Let's stop, take a moment, and just briefly imagine that the world does not revolve around you.

    Oh, wait. That's just reality kicking in, the delusion must be wearing off.

    Stop taking every little piece of criticism personally. When people give advice it is generally for the gain of the group, not to make you look or feel like an idiot. Just because someone says LB, it does not necessarily mean "Use Limit Break right now, right this very second."

    You are free to not follow every command you are given, especially if you know it is not going to produce the desired results. If someone grills you about it, ask them to pull the stick out of their ass or just tell them why you didn't do what they asked, when they asked.
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  7. #87
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    But wouldn't people then demand you save it to "link up"
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  8. #88
    Player Eidolon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ddmk View Post
    But wouldn't people then demand you save it to "link up"
    A lot of us did that, and really, that's a very effective strategy overall. However, keep in mind, for 4-man content, the only two that would really need to 'link' are probably 2 DPS. And even then, if they both just used their own seperately, I doubt it would affect anyone negatively because let's face it - 4-man content is pathetic in this game.
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  9. #89
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    Edward Volcdegen
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    Adamantoise
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Itseotle View Post
    LB1 does about 5k in 4-man dungeons and LB2 about 10k. Anantaboga for example has roughly 80,000 HP, so LB1 is roughly 5%.
    This. So many times people say, "LB NOW!" On bosses that have 10-12k HP left, and expect it to instantly die from Braver.
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  10. #90
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    Hanemakikaze Shadowmourne
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonHunterG View Post
    why does it seem almost every dungeon theres always someone who likes to tell others when to use a LB? at this point its quite annoying when the class i play most is dps class and have ran every dungeon multiple times with multiple classes. do i tell the tank how to play or the healer when to pull off their moves? no. you trust the person playing.

    stick to your class and i'll stick to mine. and anyways, you don't NEED a limit break to really beat anything.
    I trust no one, especially DF DPS. I assume everyones an idiot right off the bat, but I keep that to myself and run it without complaints on anyones mistakes because I already assumed they were an idiot. Telling you to use a LB is not telling you how to play, it's telling you to freak'n use the limit break.
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