I know when to use LB, thanks

[Bigpurpleharness]

When I'm playing one of my DPS, I don't take it personally tbh. Sometimes DPS don't do that shit right, now if they complain about when I do it, I start laughing at them (No, you don't LB immediately on the phase pre-big bomb, you can wait a few seconds, promise, never messed it up.). But honestly? They're paying attention to their own stuff and I highly doubt they're trying to tell me I suck personally, only that they've had some bad experiences. It's the same way if someone yells esuna on my WHM (Half the time it's off before they type it, so I only point that out to them if they do it the whole run)

[Itseotle]

If he had to ask, that means you haven't used it and he thinks the LB bar should already be empty.

Chances are, when someone has to ask, you're already doing it wrong (or not doing it).

And why MUST we do it? To end the fight 10 seconds sooner? If it where a matter of life and death then I could see the purpose, or in fights like Levi and Titan where a mistake COULD cost the win. But, like the OP, I get tanks screaming at me to LB demon wall or Ifrit HM nails, and to which I ask why? We can kill it perfectly fine without using LB and thus saving LB for when it IS NEEDED. My argument here is based on non-raid situations and LB1. LB2 is def worth using but LB1... meh.

Do you know how many bad DPS's there are? o.O Honestly, you HAVE to tell the majority of DRGs/MNKs when to use LB as they for some reason want it to be the finishing blow :S Just use it already, there is usually no point in waiting until it kills the boss. Better have it deal more damage :P

The counter argument here is if it is used early and then the group wipes, the LB is gone.

With all the comments here (From tanks and healers, surprise) that DPS players are all so bad, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that they're doing it to you lot out of spite.

No I believe that most good DPS go unnoticed, not intentionally, but it is much easier to remember that DRG who ate every WotL than it is to remember the one who dodged everything and managed cooldowns for jumps and gaols appropriately.

[Eidolon]

Keep in mind, as well, DPS have more than just the positioning and timing of Limit Break to worry about - we have our buffs to worry about, too.

If I see that Limit Break isn't quite up, I'm going to go into an agressive burst-DPS cycle, most likely popping my best skills (Blood For Blood, Raging Strikes, Internal Release, Etc...) and start applying the bulk of my spike damage. It takes me about 8 GCD's to go through a full cycle, and if Limit Break comes up in the middle of that, it would be a net-loss for me to blow it at that point.

Furthermore, most the time, I want to apply a DoT before limit breaking. Why? Because it can continue to DPS while I'm limit breaking. It's an optimization thing.

I'll be fair and say that there's no way you can know that a DPS is doing any of this, and when one sees there's a limit break bar at low % HP, all they're thinking is 'OMG WE CAN WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!!!!', but keep in mind, not all of us DPS are terrible. Some of us take our jobs seriously.

[Ddmk]

What I find funny is people always get angry at the melee dps for not using LB on the last boss, but I never see anyone angry at the 1-5 minutes a black mage could save by using on a large pull after the first boss in breyflox, whilst still getting the last boss LB. But, what do I know, I'm just a dps. I don't have the high skills and IQ of a tank or healer.

Except if you have a lb at big pull after 1st boss your doing something wrong

[Lunavi]

The counter argument here is if it is used early and then the group wipes, the LB is gone.

For all battles where wiping is likely to occur the LB meter still resets while you retry the boss anyway.

[Cyrus-Wallace]

Because it is the most obnoxious thing in the world to either not use it or use it when a boss is at like 1%. Which many DPS players do. Annoyingly.

You are aware of how many DPS players suck, right?

This guy gets it.

OP, I have to disagree. Everybody play this game in a different way, and it doesn't hurt to ask the DPS to LB. I don't know if that DPS will do it when he has to do it, so I better tell him to do it instead of risking. I met a lot of DPS that won't use it unless they're asked to. Some people are just afraid of using their LB because they think they'll be yelled for it. There're other DPS that are just allergic to DPS, they won't use it.

[Almalexia]

I think it's hesitation or shyness, not stupidity. No one wants to get yelled at for using LB when they're not supposed to.

But, you know, it's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission.

[Barboron]

That's only true 38% of the time.

But it's 100% true that 38% of the time unlike the 90% truth 61% of the time and that last 1% of the time is is all down to RNG

[Sapphic]

Do you know how many bad DPS's there are? o.O Honestly, you HAVE to tell the majority of DRGs/MNKs when to use LB as they for some reason want it to be the finishing blow :S Just use it already, there is usually no point in waiting until it kills the boss. Better have it deal more damage :P

A lot seem to think of it as a "finishing move".

[Zumi]

Maybe you don't do this but a lot of DPS just flat out don't use the LB or they wait till the boss is at around 1% then use it thus making it not worth while. More often then not people do not use the LB and usually have to be told to use it.