1.17 > 1.18 = 3+ months. 1.18 > 1.19 = ???

[Starlord]

Why don't we wait for the post 1.18 Yoshi-P letter? It will be around the usual 2 week mark by the time 1.18 comes out anyway. He already said we will talk about the plans for 1.19 then. Anything until that point is little more than empty speculation.

and calling it "Speculation" is a little Generous right now.. because theres not mush to speculate on.. untill 1.18 comes out

[zoekwon]

1.19 aug 23rd. my guess.

[napalmninja]

I also remember seeing something posted by Yoshi-p saying that after 1.18 the patch timeline will see significant improvements in speed, I'm looking for it right now.

EDIT: A little tidbit from the mouth of Yoshi-p

"1.18 has proven to be a time-consuming patch, but there’s a good reason for this. 1.18 is the momentous first bold step towards the ideal game that we’ve envisioned, and we hope our fans will be able to feel and appreciate the passion that went into its creation. We ask for your patience for just a little while longer."

That's out of the letter from the producer XII, in case anyone wasn't sure on his reasoning for 1.18s delays.

[Jynx]

We are unfortunatly not privy to know what the guys have actually been working on. Hell they mentioned the last thing that needs actual polish was the dungeons...like 2 weeks ago.

So chances are they have been working on 1.19 for some time, what the patch entails will dictate the speed of the release. I'm expecting a 1-2 month cycle from here on out but I wont really hold my breath until we start hearing about 1.19.

[OJtheLIONKing]

This is a pretty major change in game mechanics coming in 1.18, so that would naturally be time consuming to balance, and then QA. Spending more time in QA may help avoid problems like...well, pick your problem from the launch, many of them could have been prevented with better QA.

[Burn]

I don't see what the problem is, Why care so much about the game right now? this is a perfect time to take a 6-9 month break, the game probably needs another 2-3 major patches before its even respectable.

[Betelgeuzah]

I don't see what the problem is, Why care so much about the game right now? this is a perfect time to take a 6-9 month break, the game probably needs another 2-3 major patches before its even respectable.

The problem is that regardless of everyone's personal feelings, this game has to live up to the standards of a modern MMO. It doesn't have to do that now, that's not the point. Someday it will have to. That's the point.

And that's exactly my concern. I don't care about playing the game as it is. I care about the future prospects, and the problem is that 2-3 major patches will not be enough after 1.18. It still won't be up to par.

Whatever this forum might think is irrelevant. if there is no mass appeal, the game won't be left running for you alone.

I'm not frustrated. I'm not impatient. I just want the game to be a future success. The current development speed just won't be enough.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

The problem is that regardless of everyone's personal feelings, this game has to live up to the standards of a modern MMO. It doesn't have to do that now, that's not the point. Someday it will have to. That's the point.

And that's exactly my concern. I don't care about playing the game as it is. I care about the future prospects, and the problem is that 2-3 major patches will not be enough after 1.18. It still won't be up to par.

Whatever this forum might think is irrelevant. if there is no mass appeal, the game won't be left running for you alone.

I'm not frustrated. I'm not impatient. I just want the game to be a future success. The current development speed just won't be enough.

But who ever said that there were only going to be 2-3 major patches after 1.18? All that was said is that the team is currently working on major projects for 1.19 and 1.20 until the end of summer, but it seems obvious that this is not the end of the work. Obviously they have so much more to get done! No mention has even been eluded to in regards to Ishgard.

[Betelgeuzah]

But who ever said that there were only going to be 2-3 major patches after 1.18? All that was said is that the team is currently working on major projects for 1.19 and 1.20 until the end of summer, but it seems obvious that this is not the end of the work. Obviously they have so much more to get done! No mention has even been eluded to in regards to Ishgard.

There will be more, but the problem is the time it takes to get them out of the door... even after the pre-development time.

It makes the change in leadership completely stupid move in the long run. Instead of waiting 3 months for the next major patch in March, instead we are hit with a change in management, 5 months of low-profile development on the game... and on top of it the same 3 months of waiting for the major patch.

At this point Yoshida should be putting out patches to catch up- and hopefully surpass- Tanakas development schedule. Instead the major patches are still 3 months apart.

At this rate the November-May period was a waste of time.

They must have 1.19 and beyond ready to go much faster than it took to prepare 1.18. Otherwise we are looking at a late 2012 release schedule just because it took them so long to get started.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

There will be more, but the problem is the time it takes to get them out of the door... even after the pre-development time.

It makes the change in leadership completely stupid move in the long run. Instead of waiting 3 months for the next major patch in March, instead we are hit with a change in management, 5 months of low-profile development on the game... and on top of it the same 3 months of waiting for the major patch.

At this point Yoshida should be putting out patches to catch up- and hopefully surpass- Tanakas development schedule. Instead the major patches are still 3 months apart.

At this rate the November-May period was a waste of time.

They must have 1.19 and beyond ready to go much faster than it took to prepare 1.18. Otherwise we are looking at a late 2012 release schedule just because it took them so long to get started.

My previous post on page 12 (http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...18-1.19/page12) explored this in more detail and speculated on why we shouldn't have to wait as long for 1.19 and 1.20 as we did for 1.18.