SE Stop Using FATES for everything in FFXI Realm Reborn!

[whoopeeragon]

1.) Leveling up in this game you do FATES until you can do Dungeon.

Guildhests, hunting log, quests.

2.) Every Events you released is FATES related.

Easter, Valentines, Little Ladies, Heavensturn, Halloween didn't use FATEs.

3.) Every Seasonal Event you released is FATES related.

Look at #2. In fact, only Christmas and the Summer event used FATEs.

4.) New Relic Quest is heavily FATES related.
5.) Your Book required FATES.

Can't argue there.

6.) You make us kill mob in book that required to spawn in a FATES.

Nope, never had a specific mob that was required to be in a FATE. They were all open-world mobs. and some also ADDITIONALLY spawned in FATEs. There were no mobs however that were exclusive to FATEs.

7.) You released Venture Adventure, but to level them up you need to do FATES to earn seals to buy Venture Coins.

No you don't, you can do dungeons and earn them even faster by turning in equipment.

8.) We leveling up our Chocobo through FATES since we can't carry them to Dungeon.

Your choice, plenty of avenues for chocobo levelling in open world. If you're levelling your Chocobo via FATEs, you're not doing it optimally anyway. Urth's Gift is much better for choco levelling.

9.) We grind FATES to earn Seal

Nope, dungeons are much better than FATEs to get Seals.

10.) We grind FATES to level up our Company and earn company seals.

Nope, turns in raises Company ranks faster than FATEs, as well as earning more seals.

So your only real points are 4 and 5, related to the atma questlines. Great, an optional quest that uses FATEs, the horror.

Looks like you're complaining for the sake of complaining.

[Elim]

Look at #2. In fact, only Christmas and the Summer event used FATEs.

Easter did use FATES. If you wanted enough of the silver eggs(or whatever color they were) to get a gold egg(which had the better rewards) you had to go out and find mobs that, if you got lucky, spawned the easter event FATE.

The Shantotto, Dragon(PUFF PUFF), Lightening, Christmas and Summer events also used FATES.

[whoopeeragon]

Easter did use FATES. If you wanted enough of the silver eggs(or whatever color they were) to get a gold egg(which had the better rewards) you had to go out and find mobs that, if you got lucky, spawned the easter event FATE.

The Shantotto, Dragon(PUFF PUFF), Lightening, Christmas and Summer events also used FATES.

Easter didn't require FATEs to finish the questline. It was an EXTRA, OPTIONAL part of the event which involved FATEs.

Shantotto and Dragon are not seasonal events.

I already said Christmas and Summer.

[Elim]

Easter didn't require FATEs to finish the questline. It was an EXTRA, OPTIONAL part of the event which involved FATEs.

Shantotto and Dragon are not seasonal events.

I already said Christmas and Summer.

This is what you quoted.

2)Every Events you released is FATES related.

Then afterwards you quoted.

3.) Every Seasonal Event you released is FATES related.

#2 was not strictly about seasonal events, thus I mentioned the ones you didn't. Yes, the Easter one was OPTIONAL, but she said FATE RELATED, not "event questlines that can only be completed via FATEs".

[whoopeeragon]

This is what you quoted.



Then afterwards you quoted.



#2 was not strictly about seasonal events, thus I mentioned the ones you didn't. Yes, the Easter one was OPTIONAL, but she said FATE RELATED, not "event questlines that can only be completed via FATEs".

You first quoted me on this:

Look at #2. In fact, only Christmas and the Summer event used FATEs.

Which was my answer to the #3 point, which was related to seasonal events. You still said Shantotto and Dragon events, which are not seasonal.

I doubt the OP really uses 'related' the way its meant to be, more like 'consists of only FATEs' in nicer words. Or 'FATE based' is probably what OP is after.

Regardless, you can complete the whole Easter event without touching one FATE. You don't get anything out of doing them for progression.

[Elim]

You first quoted me on this:



Which was my answer to the #3 point, which was related to seasonal events. You still said Shantotto and Dragon events, which are not seasonal.

I doubt the OP really uses 'related' the way its meant to be, more like 'consists of only FATEs' in nicer words. Or 'FATE based' is probably what OP is after.

Regardless, you can complete the whole Easter event without touching one FATE. You don't get anything out of doing them for progression.

I quoted that one because you said "look at #2" which was not strictly about seasonal events. I also mentioned a seasonal event. I thought you'd be able to follow the logic. Clearly I was wrong.

Why don't you think the OP used "related" correctly? I don't see any reason she wouldn't.

[whoopeeragon]

I quoted that one because you said "look at #2" which was not strictly about seasonal events. I also mentioned a seasonal event. I thought you'd be able to follow the logic. Clearly I was wrong.

Look at #2 was a 'follow up' of my response. I could have copied pasted my response to #2 and my meaning would not have been different.

Why don't you think the OP used "related" correctly? I don't see any reason she wouldn't.

Because I doubt that she means 'related' in such light terms as we understand it. That's why I said her using 'FATE based' would have been more appropriate for her tone and argument.

[Luxx]

Easter didn't require FATEs to finish the questline. It was an EXTRA, OPTIONAL part of the event which involved FATEs.

Shantotto and Dragon are not seasonal events.

I already said Christmas and Summer.

Yeah let's bother with semantics. It doesn't matter if they were seasonal or not, they still used FATE's.
Don't forget.

11). You need to do FATE's in order to unlock CT - Crystal Tower.

Funny thing is: When I logged on the 1st day of 2.1, I asked how to unlock CT. They said by FATE's.
First and last time I had logged into the game of 2.1 until March lol. I dunno what it is.
Lack of creativity or just lazy to get some new ideas. .__.; It's ridiculous.
In 2.0 they made FATE's something you basically HAD to do, in order to level, the dungeons runs were too low EXP and the
time waits for DPS were much worse than are now.
Now in 2.1 they ranked up the EXP so it's much easier to level now. I'm working on multiple classes now
that I didn't want to bother with until I can do a much better alternative but didn't take forever.
Leves and dungeons are really good now.

Now, what they can do with seasonal or any general event is give us an event based dungeon that's new and stuff
just made for the events!
IE. Lightning Event. Did not bother with this either BUT they could of gave us dungeons somewhat based on that Lightning dungeon things
in her games. She could also accompany us as an NPC DPS and light healer or light tank or something and we could heal her and stuff.
^^ That would of been great! But no, settle for less with lazy FATE's.
None of this FATE BS, none of this walk and talk report to NPC's crap.

[Lithera]

Funny thing is: When I logged on the 1st day of 2.1, I asked how to unlock CT. They said by FATE's.
First and last time I had logged into the game until March lol. I dunno what it is.
Lack of creativity or just lazy to get some new ideas. .__.;

I'll reiterate my point...remove the word FATE and the CT unlock quests aren't anything different from similar dungeon unlock quests in other MMOs. What would you have done if the person had said to unlock CT you had to kill X NM in Natalan etc. instead of saying FATEs? The issue wasn't that they were FATEs but that they were on a terrible timer. Take away the timers and the CT unlock would have been quick and easy. In something like FFXI that quest would have been popped NMs from a ??? most likely that would have resulted in huge lines like when the NPC Fellow was first added to the game instead of a quick kill that gets everyone in range the kill count at the same time.