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  1. #11
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    This MIGHT be okay for let's say someone who just needs to make a bunch of a certain item for use, not for SP. It does get annoying going through every synth one at a time manually.

    That being said auto craft does just kind of seem like a legit bot. It certainly wouldn't help existing or future RMT problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    This MIGHT be okay for let's say someone who just needs to make a bunch of a certain item for use, not for SP. It does get annoying going through every synth one at a time manually.

    That being said auto craft does just kind of seem like a legit bot. It certainly wouldn't help existing or future RMT problems.
    Why not? If everyone can do it legitimately there's no reason for RMT to be around
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colino View Post
    Why not? If everyone can do it legitimately there's no reason for RMT to be around
    incorrect if everyone can do it the rmt will still be around because they run multiple accounts so all you are doing is allowing them to multiply their efforts instead of doing the right thing and banning them in the first place. asking to be able to bot legit is not asking to actually play the game which is just as bad as they are.
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    I'd prefer to make several batches of Bronze Nuggets manually in one go, It is tedious when you got like 11 batches of bronze nuggets to make and can only make one batch at a time
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    I think the bigger concern is that right now crafting even with it's "more engaging" format really just kicks you in the butt with how boring it is.

    For threads like this to exist should be sending the bigger message that crafting as a whole needs an overhaul. Whether they take these ideas into consideration or not is less of an issue, so long as they realize that something's borked and needs some dev attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alcide View Post
    ehm... Hasty Hand? o.O
    Quote Originally Posted by Ashthra View Post
    Isn't that what Hasty Hand is for?
    Quote Originally Posted by Leenk View Post
    I guess they beat me to it. Yeah, Hasty hand IS your auto synth.
    I thought I made it clear in how this is quite different from Hasty Hand. Hasty Hand, as its name suggests, allows you to gamble a recipe much lower than your rank to effectively speed up how fast you churn out mats.

    Auto Synthesis, as I imagine it, would be:

    - considerably slower; even slower than a manual standard-spam session
    - have a 100% success rate
    - remove the possibility of HQ results
    - require a certain rank and any requisite training and support to even be available as a choice
    - allow for repetitions to be queued based on amount of available mats

    Effectively, yes, this is in a way a sanctioned bot - but unlike some 3rd party bot it is something that can be balanced and restricted by SE.

    The dilemma is that crafting is fun, but only really when you attempt something challenging. Enter-spam for a synth you now you will, or should, succeed in just makes the process dull.
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    Legit botting to completely avoid the 'dull' process isn't a solution either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdenArchangel View Post
    Legit botting to completely avoid the 'dull' process isn't a solution either.
    It is a proposed solution. Surely in its basic form at the moment. I am not obnoxious enough to say that it can be the only solution, though. So by all means, please, offer an alternative.
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  9. #19
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    Nothing short of an entirely interactive 100% skill based, extremely involved crafting system would even start to deter RMT. Fun doesn't stop botting and automating the process only helps them. That's just how it is. No matter how fun it is people bot regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra View Post
    I thought I made it clear in how this is quite different from Hasty Hand. Hasty Hand, as its name suggests, allows you to gamble a recipe much lower than your rank to effectively speed up how fast you churn out mats.

    Auto Synthesis, as I imagine it, would be:

    - considerably slower; even slower than a manual standard-spam session
    - have a 100% success rate
    - remove the possibility of HQ results
    - require a certain rank and any requisite training and support to even be available as a choice
    - allow for repetitions to be queued based on amount of available mats

    Effectively, yes, this is in a way a sanctioned bot - but unlike some 3rd party bot it is something that can be balanced and restricted by SE.

    The dilemma is that crafting is fun, but only really when you attempt something challenging. Enter-spam for a synth you now you will, or should, succeed in just makes the process dull.
    The point is that I don't get why someone would need this feature since we already have HH o.O
    If it's for crafting multiple items I agree that something should be implemented, maybe one single synth that craft like 10x the normal one, but requiring 15x the normal materials would be a nice compromise, but still with the same process as normal synths (including HH).
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