Rush killed the cat!

[Yumi_umi]

Easy: you're tank and a dps wants to rush and doesn't watch aggro/pull mobs making you wipe on trash mobs? Let him die :3 *evil smile*

I'd usually rush in and heal and stoneskin the rushing dps if he is only rushing 1 mob at a time. It's my duty as a healer to make sure ppl are alive lol no matter whattttttt.
Also most synced 50s can tank 1 mob at a time in dungeons soo no surprise there.
But it usually falls on the healer if it's tank vs dps. Because they both know without heals both sides will die.
So as a healer you can either make it go fast with the dps or take it slow with the tank.
But yes it does suck for new tanks / non synced tanks to be forced to rush dungeons by synced dps and/ or healer.

[LalaRu]

Didn't want make of a case the rule
Just, ask to rush in a run that were going smooth and fine, to me means as "please don't go the chest chambers", that's all. I don't want keep into a duty no more than it is needed too.

It is not bad ask for that, the only fact I wanted point out, is that some people wanting to rush, have then the urge to do big mistakes as pulling mobs in place of tank. Doing that, even if tank is exp, things are messed a bit anyway.

Then, it is very likely the best of the tank cannot do much, if everyone panicks, dps'ing mobs at random, and healer healing cure2 full time trying to keep all this mess of group alive

Edit: saw you reasoning after post. Yes, your reasoning have sense, but the context I made clear in OP, is about an undergeraed tank dealing with synced 50s. This is a completely different setup than an endgame duty with everyone on comparable levels.

[RegentP]

THis is not a Last Remnant Post aw, I was like rush Never touched a cat

[Snowaeth]

What kind of advise is that?
Only get 1 mob back?

Look at mob AI. They always go for the target that has the highest threat on them.
If the dps pulled a pack, the whole pack is going for him. If the healer healed the dps, 1 will stay on dps the rest will go for the healer. <--- This here is the only thing you have to see. Did the healer heal dps yet or not?
If the healer healed the dps you go to the healer, if the healer didn't you go to the dps.
Once there you and all the mobs will be in the same area (except 1 if the healer did heal), then you throw flash/flash/flash or Overpower/Overpower/Overpower, after this you provoke the other mob and shield/axe throw it right after provoke.
Congratulations you have gained all the aggro and with more flash/overpower you can keep it on all of them, or if no aoe dmg is going out, combo away on the mob which the dps was attacking.

[Cherie]

What kind of advise is that?
Only get 1 mob back?

Look at mob AI. They always go for the target that has the highest threat on them.
If the dps pulled a pack, the whole pack is going for him. If the healer healed the dps, 1 will stay on dps the rest will go for the healer. <--- This here is the only thing you have to see. Did the healer heal dps yet or not?
If the healer healed the dps you go to the healer, if the healer didn't you go to the dps.
Once there you and all the mobs will be in the same area (except 1 if the healer did heal), then you throw flash/flash/flash or Overpower/Overpower/Overpower, after this you provoke the other mob and shield/axe throw it right after provoke.
Congratulations you have gained all the aggro and with more flash/overpower you can keep it on all of them, or if no aoe dmg is going out, combo away on the mob which the dps was attacking.

Pretty sure they are talking about the room with all the ranged fire mobs but, that's not a bad idea either if they bring the mobs out of the room. (IE to bunch them up at the door as they turn to fire etc).
But, I guess what I was after is just, is the healer really going to be able to collate the mobs with very little instructions? If I'm tanking and something goes badly in a dungeon, best I can do is usually type for the healer to run and let me kite to get threat after the impatient dps dies....dunno

[LalaRu]

Ho well, have first tried to get back mobs from the fool, then mobs moved to healer and other dps, then have used all my TP on overpower multiple times (10 times?) to remove aggro on healer (that was casting cure2 as crazy, as long mobs were hitting hard and people frequently <50% hp), but mobs were still orange. I guess it was just a called wipe and I cannot help it.

And yes, as Cherie pointed up, I am still on my base class (level 27, as I said).

It was a mess. Really.

Edit: anyway, after that wipe nothing bad happened, and we done all the duty ok.
Edit2: forgot to tell, the scattered pack was about 6/7 mobs, not 2 or 3

[Altijacek]

Lol Geddy Lee. I could see Neil killing a cat though

[Drako]

"can we rush up? my FC needs me"

Little OT, My apologies.

Doing low level "My FC needs me" = This is going to slow, they are killing everything I want this done now.
Doing Brayflox Myth SR after two runs "FC calls take care" = I've got my new book for zodiac see ya.
Titan HM/Ex first wipe "gtg FC needs help" = I don't believe the party can do this, and I'm not wasting my time.
Sitting in PF for 10 minutes for any run "FC stuff bye" = Person sees another opening in a PF that they have a interest, likely for the same exact event you are doing.

I'm sure this isn't true for all cases, but ya..
The most legit reason I think I've seen to leave a group is probably for Behemoth or odin, the rest well.

[Crimson-Falcon]

rushing in locked level sync in just stupid

you can rush all day in lv50 duties