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  1. #81
    Player
    Searain's Avatar
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    Searain Sunwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Yurihyuga View Post
    I personally think the atma grind was fine how it is probably one of the few. Zodiac weapons are not the best in the game - Lev weapon with mirror is on par with animus(for people who want to grind a different way for a top tier weapon) turn 5 weapons are better than zenith and turn 9 aka 2nd coil turn 4 weapons is better than animus.
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    I will not answer again in this discussion because it is the right place but I wanted to point out. No one wants the most powerful weapon, it is not a matter of ilvl, it is simply ridiculous that an average player who is not at home all day to access all of the content of the game has to farm 80 hours (if all goes well) only atma and after losing their lives in instance. The same opportunity should be given to all. Personally, I stopped doing the Zodiac quest, as did many other players.
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  2. #82
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    Yow Rabntah
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    - I found upgrading a weapon is something that shows how dedicated you are in a job, should the final result really worth the efford? like a special weapon skill only available if you equip the weapon.
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    Final Fantasy XIV spanish non official translation.
    Traducción no oficial en español de Final Fantasy XIV
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  3. #83
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    Veritas-Ancora's Avatar
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    Mother Vain
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    Gilgamesh
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    Please remove Atma from the game.

    - Animus is good and makes you feel accomplished.
    - Atma wastes time when we should be learning rotations, not AoE spam.

    I know this is a huge request, but I think any new players encountering this will be severely discouraged to continue playing. That hurts you, and it hurts us.
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  4. #84
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    Sky Alberich
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    My only concern with FATEs grind Zodiac Weapons is the fact there are certain zones that do not have enough players to do FATES, hence they cannot finish the FATE itself to have a chance for items to drop. Its bad enough the rate drop is extremely low and some of us are not hardcore player, its worse when we cant even finish a FATE to try our luck. How can you make Atma more attainable when certain zones are completely barren of players.
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  5. #85
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    Nekodar's Avatar
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    Nyaano Nohea
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Please consider using other ways of slowing down progression for future installations of relic upgrade quests...
    Some kind of "allowance" system like "leve allowances" could be useful.
    It would allow for progress every day for those that have the time, while people with less time could save up allowances to catch up later.
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  6. #86
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    Raiden Scarletart
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    Lamia
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    Will fish tanks be implanted into housing so that players may watch their trophies swim around for all to enjoy?
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  7. #87
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    Jene_Starwind's Avatar
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    Jene Starwind
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    Will the atma drop rate ever be increase?
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  8. #88
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    Manwe Sulimo
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukinohiryu View Post
    Will Fates get adjusted for new people to obtain Atma at a faster pace?
    Please no unless you really want to slap the people in the face that already have worked hard (or I suppose got really lucky but still they had to work for it) to collect all the atmas. Do you really want to teach people that mass complaining is the key to getting what they want? Games might work that way but life doesn't, so why teach people to be weak? I'm sure people might read that and take offense to it. The last thing I want to do is insult anyone, but people need to not rob themselves of tough mental exercises so they can become mentally tough. And in case any haters are reading this thinking I got lucky, it took me 36 hours to get one atma in Central Thanalan but I still did it and I have a sense of pride in myself that I didn't give in to the urge to quit because it got too hard and was taking too long. And before I get accused of playing 24-7 I have a full time job and two side businesses
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    Last edited by ManweSulimo; 05-23-2014 at 03:51 AM.
    We were all created equal, with the equal opportunity to become unequal.
    -J.C.II

  9. #89
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    Manwe Sulimo
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Reyner_Pycelle View Post
    Are there any plans to allow ATMAs to drop when playing other classes [etc.]?
    My Actual Question: Instead can you make it so that if you already have an zenith in your armory chest (or equipped) that the atmas would drop so that as Reyner said the exp isn't wasted and you can still farm atmas? Furthermore can it be possible that after each fate is completed, the atma drop rate calculates as many times as there are zenith (or atma or animus) weapons in your inventory? For example if you have 3 zenith weapons (PLD, WHM, BLM) and one atma weapon (SCH) you could potentially get four atmas in one fate (albiet the chance is absurdly low) while leveling your level 1-49 monk. This seems to be a way that people can increase the drop chance of atmas and be in more control (by simply leveling more classes and getting more zenith weapons) thereby reducing the RNG factor without infuriating the people that already endured the RNG.
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    We were all created equal, with the equal opportunity to become unequal.
    -J.C.II

  10. #90
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    ManweSulimo's Avatar
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    Manwe Sulimo
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    An alternative to the above post is to multiply the single atma drop chance by the number of atma/zenith/animus weapons in your inventory. Maybe already having an atma/animus could count for more than 1x (2x, 3x or more x) so that people who already endured the RNG can get their atma/animus weapons for other classes more easily since they already endured the initial perseverance test.

    Even this idea would make it easier for new people to optimize their time better than the people whom already have their atma/animus weapons, but I think the people that already do have those atma/animus weapons will be far more satisfied with a fix that doesn't make all of their hard work completely go to waste and that they should have just waited for a bailout if you will.
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    Last edited by ManweSulimo; 05-23-2014 at 03:53 AM.
    We were all created equal, with the equal opportunity to become unequal.
    -J.C.II

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