Collision Detection

[giftforce]

Collision Detection between players and the environment is one thing, but collision between players and other players (or players and mobs) is another. I think it was a mistake to remove the old system where players gained some sense of situational awareness when they ran into other players or mobs, and I think SE should seriously consider bringing collision detection back.

Don't you agree?

People might complain that it destroys their whole world because they happened to trip up on a marmot, but maybe next time you should look where you are going? That's just a suggestion.

It seems very unrealistic that you can run right through people.

Furthermore, the collision detection we had was only partial collision detection. In the future, SE should look at implementing true collision detection where players cannot run through other players at all. The same thing should be applied to mobs. Getting engulfed by a Dreamtoad everytime you do a leve is not very realistic. You shouldn't be able to walk through something.

I never played Age of Conan, but I believe they had collision detection. I know TERA has it, and I know ArcheAge has it. So obviously it's something lots of MMOs these days have. And I know just because other MMOs have it doesn't mean FFXIV needs it, but even if those other MMOs hadn't first set the precedent, I would still suggest it.

[Raistlin]

and then a group of tards in a row block ways to move! yea i want it

[giftforce]

and then a group of tards in a row block ways to move! yea i want it

In archeage you can push people out of the way (within a certain radius).

Also, I mention these other games as living proof that it won't destroy the whole world just because there's collision detection. If other games can do it, then that suggests it is not an unachievable idea.

Also, im sure one of those people in a line will be a lalafell so you can just jump over them.

Invading other people's bodies and getting stuck inside mobs is more game-ruining than the prospect of having some people actually doing something in the game for once anyway.

[Allcars]

Playing a mmo with magic and coming back from the dead, and you want to talk about realism? First Collision detection isn't needed on players because griefing by making giant lines to cut off parts of the city is stupid. Or blocking people from going to a dung. I can understand mobs having it, but in general if SquareEnix were to add a system like euphoria, where your character ajust the feet so they are always on the ground and sort of making it like Assassins Creed where your character moves with the crowd not going through them but turning to the side or something would make a collision system work. At this time the game needs a more work with both net code and player pop in before they could even consider your idea or even mine.

[giftforce]

Playing a mmo with magic and coming back from the dead, and you want to talk about realism? First Collision detection isn't needed on players because griefing by making giant lines to cut off parts of the city is stupid. Or blocking people from going to a dung. I can understand mobs having it, but in general if SquareEnix were to add a system like euphoria, where your character ajust the feet so they are always on the ground and sort of making it like Assassins Creed where your character moves with the crowd not going through them but turning to the side or something would make a collision system work. At this time the game needs a more work with both net code and player pop in before they could even consider your idea or even mine.

Well I am glad you at least proposed a solution for how the system could work. Sometimes I find myself questioning the intelligence of people in these forums when they just say "sorry, impossible" without even thinking things through.

In any case, there's only so many times you can use "Crappy game crappy servers" as an excuse. And obviously if considered for implementation, this suggestion wouldn't be a priority.

[ObeiKinstar]

I'm totally for collision, not completely impassable tho. I have made several threads on this topic in the battle environment and other forum categories.

[Raistlin]

erm sorry, but i dont like someone pushing me.

[giftforce]

erm sorry, but i dont like someone pushing me.

I don't like being trapped inside mob models.

I don't like invasively possessing people by walking through them.

I don't like how people can walk all over me (literally).

Are we at least even now?

[Raistlin]

I don't like being trapped inside mob models.

I don't like invasively possessing people by walking through them.

I don't like how people can walk all over me (literally).

Are we at least even now?

Sure but yours are impressions (you dont like how your character dissapair inside or something), your option is that someone can interact with my character without my permision i dont like it. if i can move you a little collisiing with u, who said i can not move people to hide bazaars, or just zone them, etc

[giftforce]

Sure but yours are impressions (you dont like how your character dissapair inside or something), your option is that someone can interact with my character without my permision i dont like it. if i can move you a little collisiing with u, who said i can not move people to hide bazaars, or just zone them, etc

Then this is merely an argument over definitions. What is "interaction".

I consider someone standing on me while crafting an interaction. A really unrealistic one at that!