Quote Originally Posted by Uninstall View Post
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Changing cast times of thunders doesn't change anything as long as the same variables are being changed in both equations.

You also cannot argue that you would "use Thunder 1 in the second rotation because it's going to be longer". The debate is about opening with Bliz3 vs Thunder. Therefore if you use T1 in Rotation 2, you are using T1 in Rotation 1 as well.(because after the opening the rotations are going to be the same anyways)

However, as I stated, by the time you finish your 2nd Thunder cast, I've already cast

1x Bliz3,1x Thunder, 1x UI3 F3, and 5x F1.

compared to:

2x Thunder, 1x F3, and 4x F1


^Those amount of skills take roughly the same amount gcd's to perform(maybe .5sec difference)

You cannot in any way argue that 2 Thunder2(100 potency) + 1F3(220) + 4 F1(1080) + 1 AF3 B3(176)=(1576) is more potency than 1 B3(220), 1T2(50), 1 UI3 F3(176) & 5x F1(1350) = 1796.

For a proper theoretical comparison, both rotations have to be done until they reach the same amount of time performing.

Of course T>F3>F1>F1>F1>F1 looks stronger than B3>T>F3>F1>F1>F1. Because you've only done 3 F1 vs 4 F1. Both of those sets are around the 13-14 second mark.

But bringing them to the same relative time frame(adding Bliz3>T restart to the end) shows that although you're doing more damage in the first 15 seconds by starting with T/F3, you're going to be doing MORE damage after 20 seconds than you were with the other rotation.