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    Player
    Uninstall's Avatar
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    Yukairi Ran
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    Hyperion
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    You were the one that's calculating pps/second so obviously cast time does mattered there... u_u; I also stated you must include Thunder's dot potency, as once again, that matters for the pps/second calculation you did.

    You do realize your argument is extremely flawed because the rotation that doesn't start with Blizzard will once again pull ahead after 20 seconds? At 20 seconds it's the second rotation that's using Fires while the first one is using Blizzard and Thunder.
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    Nefael Yunalesca
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 80
    And at 30 seconds the first will be ahead, and at 40 the second, at 50 the first, etc.

    They are going to continue to bounce until they they are interrupted, at which point will determine which one "provides higher DPS"

    Neither of us is RIGHT, which my argument clearly shows, and which was one of the things implied by "Neither is a large determining factor in your overall DPS".

    As well, changing the cast times doesn't matter, IF ALL thunders were calculated under the same cast time. The ratio between the 2 end results will always be the same as long as the same variable was changed in both. In fact, the final result, whether the NUMBERS are right or not, does not matter. Only the ratio between the 2 numbers is what was being discussed.

    I could use made up numbers, as long as I used the same numbers for each variable in each equation.
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    Waliel Hla
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Uninstall View Post
    You get a crappy half damage Fire 3.
    UI stance is -30%, and F3 hits for low amounts in neutral, anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by IAmPotent View Post
    Yes, I get a half damage Fire3, as well as an additional F1, meaning I've done 5x 270 potency spells by the time you've finished casting your second thunder, and have only cast 4x 270 potency spells.
    And an additional chance of Firestarter proc.
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    Last edited by Waliel; 05-10-2014 at 08:19 PM.

    Yoshi-P is doing his best and is patching Endwalker. Please wait warmly until it is ready.

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    Character
    Flips Fordays
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 60
    Biggest AOE Burst:
    F3 > F2 until ~300 MP (lowest MP you can use flare) > Flare > Convert + Swift Cast > Flare > X Ether > Flare > Transpose > B3 (you can wait until you're at full MP)> Rinse Repeat.

    Note that Swift Cast can be used in any of the 3 flares
    Huge Spike in Damage and enmity.

    Sustainable AOE DPS
    F3 > F2 until ~300MP > Flare > Transpose > B3 (you can wait until you're at full MP)> Rinse Repeat
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