sch has low heals? we mitigate damage

[Kitru]

I can usually get six to seven Holy's in succession in a group of mobs while keeping my tank stabilized without issue, so that's 1,200 to 1,400 potency per target versus SCHs 390 in a comparable 30 second window (it usually takes me thirty seconds to stabilize the tank before I begin my spree of Holy's).

Holy is a 3 sec cast. If you're getting 6-7 successive casts in, that's an 18-21 second window where you're not healing, ~12-15 seconds of which the enemies aren't stunned (chaincasting Holy gives you a 4 sec stun that's cut down to 3 with the reapplication of a 2 sec stun). If you can get away with not healing for 12-15 seconds, you're not in a situation where healing is anything approaching a concern and where a SCH would be able to DoT + Bane with abandon to provide a similar benefit to what you're getting out of Holy spam (if not more, over time, given how the 3 DoTs amount to ~800 potency when Bane cleaved) because you're obviously not in the middle of a pull large enough to render Bane ineffective in comparison.

The scenarios we're talking about, the damage from Shadowflare + Miasma II would be roughly equivalent of what a WHM could pump out with the occasions in which they're able to cast Holy, which is what I'm referring to. If you can keep chaincasting Holy after the stuns have worn off, you're not in a situation where your healing really matters all that much.

[Ghishlain]

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I actually can because in the middle of the 5th Holy, I can Benediction the WAR at 11K HP and keep going without missing a beat in my chain Holy. Additionally, in that chain casting of Holy, my HoTs are still going off (even if they are less potent than Eos / Selene healing). I will get some reprieve during the 7 seconds of stun for HoTs to roll over as well.

My normal rotation on the first pull for Mythflox is as follows:

-Divine Seal
-Regen
-Cure II until tank is full
-Medica II
-Regen (Divine Seal should still be active)
-Cleric's Stance
-Holy until dead

*Insert Benediction as needed between 4-6th Holy
*Esuna Paralyze when needed in the time Divine Seal is up

You won't need Benediction for the Goblin Pull after the first boss, but you may need to drop Cleric's Stance for a Cure III or Medica. My opening rotation still remains though. I tend to be able to chain Holy through the 2nd Pull without issue too off the power of Regen + Medica II.

[peaches]

I should point out, if no one else has yet, that SCH does not have low heals. Our Physick + Embrace is equal to a Cure 2 for almost no cost, and we can spam that nearly infinitely

[KiraVaela]

You should not care about your parsing numbers that much, especially as a healer. This tool is mostly for dps classes, because, unlike Tanks and Healers, there is no reliable way to tell who is doing enough dmg and who can't carry their own weight. It comes in handy if you want to optimize your play, but it is not really necessary.

Also, as stated many times, Scholars don't not have low heals. You can bring lots of healing with smart use of Eos, Lustrates and basic Physick/Adloquium spam.

Next thing, both healers can (contrary to popular belief) help each other in areas they are not supposed to shine just fine. Whm can help with mitigation through Virus, E4E and Stoneskin while Sch can help with AoE healing through Eos (FI, WD) and Succor.

[Starsmore]

Myself being a WHM I like reading topics like this. It's really interesting to see how my end-game will turn out before I'm even there, so I can start getting used to some of the changes I will have to make to get the best out of working together fluently. Great job guys! Keep the posts coming!

[Nicobo]

..should i leave my fc because they are telling me this? should i just explain to them?

I think you should leave your FC in you were not happy with them.
I think maybe they just said you were low heal (the number) but not sch low heal,
because a lot of sch say that they do 1200+ on every single heal button so explaination should be useless.^^;

[AldoVonAlexandros]

yolo

at the end i did changed fc, i wasnt doing anything there

now a selfie =)

[Nicobo]

yolo

at the end i did changed fc, i wasnt doing anything there

now a selfie =)

gratz! you look happy now^^
maybe take this chance to plan for your own fc, i think building your own fc house is interesting.

[alhandra]

if you are having trouble with your heals being low try making a physick + embrace macro. it basically serves as a SCH version of c2 but with hate split between you and the fairy and low mp cost you are alot more free to spam it

on the subject of dps, if you wish to DPS comfortably get used to using stoneskin instead of adlo, its mp cost is a bit lower and it is not affected by cleric stance. also learn to rotate your fairies cool downs. once you hit lvl 50 you also have access to lustrate which is not affected by cleric stance.

in a non speed run environment, i dps exclusively thru entire dungeons without ever casting a single adlo or physick. properly timed lustrates and making sure to always keep stoneskin up on my tank allows me to never leave cleric stance.

with cool downs and proper mitigation with eye and virus your fairy can solo heal every single 4 man encounter in the game