sch has low heals? we mitigate damage

[Manuka]

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Yeah I've had the same issue of the "What if" shadow looming over me and held onto my CD's for far too long sometimes but if ya think about it, by holding onto all of your CD's for those 'oh god no' moments you're actually making the party vulnerable to those very situations by allowing the damage to slowly creep up on you. Honestly after I started to be more proactive with my CD's and using them consistently (even if badly) the difference in difficulty was night and day. SCH's have a ridiculous amount of invisible power rolled up in their kit that it's difficult to appreciate it until you start using it often. So just keep in mind, it's better to use a CD incorrectly and eek some benefit out of'em than save'em till s**t hits the fan and realize you already passed the point of no return. Granted, as I say that I still forget Virus exists sometimes ;-;

[insert applause for Manuka here]

/blush

[Kitru]

SCH's have a ridiculous amount of invisible power rolled up in their kit that it's difficult to appreciate it until you start using it often.

This is one of the biggest problems with a vast majority of SCHs. I like to them that they play SCH as if it were WHM (saving Aetherflow for mp regen and only using the stacks and CDs when they absolutely have to, casting Physick instead of Adloq when a target is low on hp because it restores more hp, keeping everyone topped off constantly) which they just shouldn't be.

A SCH should be only be throwing Physick when the target needs a heal, already has Galvanize, and you're out of stacks you can spend on Lustrate (sometimes you have to keep them in reserve for Sacred Soil or tank burst Lustrates for specific mechanics). She should be using Rouse and Fey Illumination as much as possible and letting her pet top people off instead of trying to do it herself all the time. She should be precasting shield spells and using Sacred Soil/Fey Covenant to prevent the group from taking damage rather than waiting for it to happen and healing reactively (that's what Whispering Dawn is for). She should be using her Aetherflow stacks on a regular basis, making sure that she uses 3 every minute so that Aetherflow isn't wasted, sitting there when it's off CD.

SCH is very much so a class about using it or losing it, and, if you hold stuff in reserve like people do with WHM (for good reason), you're going to lose it.

[Menae]

This is one of the biggest problems with a vast majority of SCHs. I like to them that they play SCH as if it were WHM (saving Aetherflow for mp regen and only using the stacks and CDs when they absolutely have to, casting Physick instead of Adloq when a target is low on hp because it restores more hp, keeping everyone topped off constantly) which they just shouldn't be.

A SCH should be only be throwing Physick when the target needs a heal, already has Galvanize, and you're out of stacks you can spend on Lustrate (sometimes you have to keep them in reserve for Sacred Soil or tank burst Lustrates for specific mechanics). She should be using Rouse and Fey Illumination as much as possible and letting her pet top people off instead of trying to do it herself all the time. She should be precasting shield spells and using Sacred Soil/Fey Covenant to prevent the group from taking damage rather than waiting for it to happen and healing reactively (that's what Whispering Dawn is for). She should be using her Aetherflow stacks on a regular basis, making sure that she uses 3 every minute so that Aetherflow isn't wasted, sitting there when it's off CD.

SCH is very much so a class about using it or losing it, and, if you hold stuff in reserve like people do with WHM (for good reason), you're going to lose it.

Pretty much this. Scholars are almost like a DPS in that they are best played by maximizing throughput, in a sense. By that I mean that unless a fight mechanic demands more than three Aetherflow charges in very short succession, you are best served by using them up and getting Aetherflow back on cooldown. Every 20 seconds you leave Aetherflow available but unused is a Lustrate or a Sacred Soil or even Energy Drain thrown away. Every 60 (cumulative) seconds you leave Aetherflow unused is hurting your mp regeneration to the point where you'd actually be better off as a WHM using Shroud for two minutes.

Even WHM should try and use cooldowns regularly, but Divine Seal aside, they are longer cooldowns and holding them for a few seconds doesn't really affect the number of uses you get over a fight. For SCH it is ESSENTIAL to playing the class well - two of your biggest advantages over WHM are Lustrate and Aetherflow's MP regen, and by leaving Aetherflow unused you are losing a lot of both.

[Delvish]

Pretty brave to put your play style up for review and critique. I know I have a super hard time managing Aetherflow stacks and WD, saving both of them for ohnoes moments unless I know a fight by heart when I need to use what at precisely the right time. It does open up the possibility for thorough but constructive criticism like what Manuka posted. Super detailed and not aggressive. I may have to look into doing this more myself.

[tOnni3]

Healer's job is to keep party alive until the fight end, only dumbs care what your heal per second is.

[AldoVonAlexandros]

Actually from that I can see a few bad habits you should try correcting; you're way way too conservative with Lustrates....
Lastly like Dante said use your Fairy CD's more often, 60secs isn't long at all and it is pretty darn good.

thanks, thats really helpfull, ty all for your replys, this will improve my gameplay, also i noticed that i dont use some skills because i not paying attention to the CD, so Im going to put those skills on hot bars to watch the cd, thank u all, i love u comunnity =)

[Euphe]

I used to play WHM a lot and you can definitely tell the difference between the two jobs. I did not switch to SCH out of lack of respect for WHM. I switched because SCH better fits my play style. Without a doubt my heals are "lower" to a WHM's BUT healing through damage isn't the point behind SCH at all. It's all about mitigation. So should you leave your FC because they are comparing a completely differently structured class? No; you should at least inform them of the difference. If they don't understand tell them to read in the forums. There's plenty of SCH vs. WHM comparison threads out there. I had a similar problem in my FC but with a SMN who got "out-parsed" by our BLM. It's all about the different mechanics and does not mean that either is better or worse because this game is decently balanced and each job fits into a specific role in any given group. One of my favorite things to do with my SCH is to couple my heals with my fairy's. Try "macro'ing" your physick with your fairy's embrace:

/ac "Physick" <t>
/pac "Embrace" <t>

The benefits of doing this are great in terms of healing. It will provide you with a better chance to crit since it's two separate spells going off and there is no need for a /wait <time> since your fairy is a separate character. I also noticed that when things get bad I don't need to rely so much on Lustrate unless it's a severe situation that completely warrants it (this frees up more charges to drop Sacred Soils which helps to mitigate even more damage in the end). It's also practically on point with a WHM's Cure II but with half the mana cost. Bottom line (which has been previously stated repeatedly in this thread) if everyone is being kept alive then who cares who is getting top heals? We cannot be rated like dps and that's why in my FC we don't run healing parsers at all. I'm trying not to compare the jobs because if I didn't have my WHM friend running with me in my raid group I'd have a rough time for sure, so consequently I more or less need my WHM bud.

[AldoVonAlexandros]

Try "macro'ing" your physick with your fairy's embrace:

/ac "Physick" <t>
/pac "Embrace" <t>

ty, watch my gameplay, you'll see that my skills are all macroed =)

[DosonTheGreat]

What are you mitigating? You can just spam physick most of the time unless you're doing coil or something. Scholars should have really high HPS on mostly single target healing fights.

[Manuka]

What are you mitigating? You can just spam physick most of the time unless you're doing coil or something.

Any incoming damage, really. Sure you could spam physick most of the time as it is the best Hp per MP spell we got, but it's the most inefficient time-wise which is a big risk as a SCH. Look at it like this, all content in this game is scripted around the GCD such that; tank gets hit, you physick, then he gets hit again soon afterwards ad nauseum. Now in a perfect world all this damage should be relegated to the tank but mechanics and mistakes happen, so what should you do since our most potent heals are CD and RNG bound? You buy your team more time. When you apply Galvanize you aren't just blocking damage you're saving a GCD that would've been spent on a physick, putting you ahead of the script to do other stuff with. This is why WHM/SCH are so potent together; WHM's got the raw power but need time to use it an have it stick while SCH's lack the power-on-demand but excel in stalling through shields and debuffs. You aren't buying time by spamming physicks, and depending on the situation are dropping much of the healing onto your partner unknowingly.