Has this happened to you before?

[SweetLemonade]

Hello

Does the term "majority rules" still have bearing in an MMO?

***scenario

Was in Darkhold dungeon and one of the DPS was adamant about clearing out the entire dungeon. Being as I was in no rush, I obliged (heals) and so did the other DPS.

The tank however wanted no parts of this and continued forward. Me being the healer had no choice but to follow him(?) and then followed the chat rage.

The DPS wanting to clear the entire dungeon had some rude words for the Tank and I and just left. He was replaced but I just felt he was being overly-dramatic.

My question is, who's at fault here? Is it acceptable if someone doesn't get their way to just abandon the group?

Oh and I'm new here so I just wanted to say hello to you all =^.^=
Thanks for reading!!

[gornotck]

Sure. That's why he has a 30 minute penalty on top of being a DPS and having queues of up to and over an hour.

As to who is at fault? Mmm. I would divide the blame between him and the tank. If the tank was the only one who didn't want to clear the dungeon, I don't really see why everyone else should have to rush along after him. Though the tank would promptly leave after finding out that he couldn't bully you into submitting to his iron rule, because he has a queue in the seconds. The 30 minute penalty means nothing for him, I guess.

Heavens forbid that people are there to actually GET experience and level. Heavens forfend that they're not just cruising through for myth tomes and a pittance of soldiery.

[Caiera]

If it was agreed to clear mobs, then I think the Tank was at fault for pushing on

But then there's really no need for rudeness or rage quitting because you don't get your way lol

So i would not even think about it, especially as a replacement came in, I'll assume you finished the instance after this with no problems

[KingOfAbyss]

Heya SweetLemonade,

Welcome to the wonderfu.. oh wait, nvm.

You will always come across bad seeds, virtual or in-real-life, it's all the same.

That said, some will say it's Square Enix fault for making some dungeons the way they are.

There will always be exploiters that will try to find a 'shortcut' to save a few mins.. putting everyone on the verge, instead of enjoying the journey..

As a tank, I say it before starting that I will do full runs myself. If others are displeased by that, SE made a leave button. DPS are easily replaced, so..

That rage, i wouldn't let it go affecting you. It will sadly.. happen lots.

The majority doesnt apply; if one newbie is getting into Praet, I will let him enjoy all the cutscenes, if I chose to get in there, I chose to get it done, with the time allowed.

But.. we are 8 in there, other tank can rush and leave everyone behind..

You have no control over others, only yourself.

Still, take Screen Shots of the people before every dungeon, so you can report those who are behaving badly, using vote kick without a good reason, etc.. name it.

I feel it's a very bad community attitude, no matter which server we are playing.

Make sure to do: get a good FC that you can do everything together, except (so far) Duty roulettes.

Yup, people these days are playing MMOs.. trying to solo it. They don't care cause they won't see you again, nor in real life, so I can vent in here if I received a punishment by my mom.. for example.

Stick around: this game is worth it, and I'm excited for the June's incoming changes!

Be well and have fun, the most important point.

King

[SweetLemonade]

Sure. That's why he has a 30 minute penalty on top of being a DPS and having queues of up to and over an hour.

As to who is at fault? Mmm. I would divide the blame between him and the tank. If the tank was the only one who didn't want to clear the dungeon, I don't really see why everyone else should have to rush along after him. Though the tank would promptly leave after finding out that he couldn't bully you into submitting to his iron rule, because he has a queue in the seconds. The 30 minute penalty means nothing for him, I guess.

Heavens forbid that people are there to actually GET experience and level. Heavens forfend that they're not just cruising through for myth tomes and a pittance of soldiery.

I agree that Tanks are in control due to the golden rule of everyone has to follow them. I really don't mind doing a little more and I'm sure the extra 5 minutes or so it took to finish really shouldn't have bothered him too much /shrug

[SweetLemonade]

If it was agreed to clear mobs, then I think the Tank was at fault for pushing on

But then there's really no need for rudeness or rage quitting because you don't get your way lol

So i would not even think about it, especially as a replacement came in, I'll assume you finished the instance after this with no problems

It finished no problem. The whole raging thing really just seemed so out of place and random though. Last MMO I played had a lot of players with the "lone-wolf" mentality in group content. That kind of thing turned me off from that game. I can accept bad eggs, long as they aren't toxic to my experience with the game.

[Fitzmagician]

Personally, I will never cause someone to not enjoy the full experience of the game. If they want to watch the cut scenes, I will let them. All of us play this game for different reasons and as a tank, you should respect the will of the party.

Remember though, as a healer you actually control all the power. Now I didn't say anything but sometimes if a tank is being unruly and obnoxious or going on a power trip, its okay to make him sweat a little :P

[Yurimi]

Technically you as the healer control what happens :P
2 dps and a healer can take out most things a tank and 2 dps can't really do much. If the tank wants to run ahead but the group decided on somethingdifferent, if you are comfortable healing heavily just kindly encourage your dps to clear everything and let the tank run off to his demise. The majority does indeed still rule it doesn't matter who the minority is your group can not be held hostage by a single person. Some people are harder to replace but no one is irreplaceable vote kick is there for a reason..

[Foo01]

I was a tank and I had BLM trying to force a speedrun thru Haukke normal. He starts off by running off trying to pull things and then demands either me or healer give him protect. And then he continued and pulled stuff on his own. So at the next mob group, I asked him to go pull, obviously he knows that he won't be able to handle that by himself, so he started cussing at me. We vote kicked him for harassment, and got a replacement DPS in less than a minute, and there were no such nonsense afterwards. There are all kinds of players and some of them are just really unpleasant.

BTW I don't normally run as a tank, I main a DPS, but often do healing duties. I am just trying to see all the different aspect of things. As a healer when you have a tank that doesn't want to work with the group, especially those that run off without a word and even before protect, let them go pull, everyone else just stay back and don't shoot, heal, or aggro anything. Let the tanks like that eat the mobs they got. It won't be long before they realize they can't force it.

As a DPS on the other hand, you basically have to go with the flow, unless you got the backing of the other players, there is really not much you can force. Overly dramatic or not, DPS getting mad at the tank or healer usually never ends in the DPS's favor.

[Crimen]

Psh, I've been in that situation many times, where the team agrees one something but the tank decides to do whatever he wants, or is constantly insulting everyone. As a healer I simply let them die to let them know they they arent in charge. Then they either rage quit or the group kicks them and I ask in LS or FC chat if there's any tank available to replace them.