crystal tool and server : some news ?

[zaviermhigo]

if you dont know what is luminous engine : http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/201...xt_gen_engine/

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201009/02033025.html

they speak about it in sept 2010

So what's the plan with FFXIV please ? =)

I would like to find one picture that doesn't look grainy and dark, or maybe its the way the pictures from sites are, being used for tomb raider and just cause and such makes it look grainy, too be fair its a western engine originally in concept, made better by SE, so maybe thats the gritty feel I'm getting (like rockstar games, and many others) I like the smooth look of crystal tools, but it makes what sim's players call "pudding face" A LOT. That cutscene in the FFXIII versus video (one on the balcony with some girl, stereotypical FF), didn't look much better than a cutscene from FF8

[Delsus]

Maybe they will use the Hashimoto luminous engine for FFXIV ?

If they ported it to a new engine every bit of code would need to be rewritten to be compatible with the new engine, also i'm not sure how that engine would work on ps3. It would take alot less time to optimise crytal tools for PC than it would to port to a new engine

[Jennestia]

Silly us

It's funny how you adamantly defended yourself when you were accused of pretty much twisting around what others say, which you have done quite a bit on Eorzeapedia and even here, then you decide to twist around what I write. Just face facts you refuse to understand what people write.

It doesn't matter if it's 1992 or 2080, if things that were flimsy in the 90s is still flimsy in 2000s, it proves the year doesn't matter. Since you have reading comprehension problems, I'll requote what I wrote and emphasize it better for you:

Crystal Tools doesn't "suck" and XIII/Versus XIII kind of shows that. It's poorly optimized for MMORPGs however

What this means, and I hope you can understand this as I'm going to write this in plain english -- It's mainly an offline game engline.

There's plenty of games in 2011 that still has problems with running 2 games alongside each other if they both utilize full screen, because DirectX can get touchy -- No Alt+tab is something they said that's being looked at.

Notice how you completely ignored this part to twist around what I wrote? This is why people say you need to get over yourself.

[Dragonheart]

UP, and devs could submit our questions to the team? :<

[Delsus]

Jennestia I dont know if I would say the crystal tools problems are because its an offline game engine, but I do know it was origanally designed for PS3 which would be why FFXIII looks and performs so well, however no games have been released for PC using crystal tools so that could be the problem, just adapting the engine to PC, I know programming for PS3 and PC are completly differant.

I do agree that the problem is adapting the game to either PC or MMOs

[zaviermhigo]

By FFXVI (notice not XIV), we'll have an engine that does online and offline pretty well. We just have to wait LOL

[Kassad]

I believe this is currently the most important issue that could prevent a success for the future of FFXIV on PC and probably on PS3.

I have checked what could have caused the lack of communication from the team on this issue.

To start with, game engine is a pride for the company.

Secondly, if you check wikipedia for Crystal Tools, you will find Taku Murata as Director, not Yoshihisa Hashimoto. A simple Linkedin search is the best update you can find on Taku Murata current status. Taku Murata is now Sr. Director at Square Enix.

As shown on the link below, Yoshihisa Hashimoto is now Square Enix chief technical officer and Luminous Studio director. One thing for sure, he is not 100% dedicated to improve crystal tool engine. So who really is then? Who has the responsibility of improving/correcting the engine?

Please give us an update, we need hope... I feel like this is going to be unanswered sadly.

http://jp.linkedin.com/pub/taku-murata/3/903/953
http://www.ffrepublic.com/news/squar...l-Engine-3-595
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/201...ce=twitterfeed

[Ilean]

If they ported it to a new engine every bit of code would need to be rewritten to be compatible with the new engine, also i'm not sure how that engine would work on ps3. It would take alot less time to optimise crytal tools for PC than it would to port to a new engine

Luminous seems so superior that it might just be worth it middle-long term. I doubt SE would go for it, they are not ballsy enough. Also it probably wouldn't be as hard to do as assumed as both frameworks are likely very similar, assets are done and most routines are already finalized.

Really, the actual coding is the easy part of software development.

[Evangelus]

10 month and no change in server and engine, but we know they work on.

Please give us some detail and news ;_;

[Shipp]

It's funny how you adamantly defended yourself when you were accused of pretty much twisting around what others say, which you have done quite a bit on Eorzeapedia and even here, then you decide to twist around what I write. Just face facts you refuse to understand what people write.

Quote me where I have "twisted words" or you can quit using that argument. Also, you can quit referring to Eorzeapedia, because you didn't even remember which site I was from until it was pointed out. If you can't place a name until it's pointed out, then how in the world are you able to remember that person's posting history?

I didn't twist your words at all, let's look at what I was responding to in your post:

Also the whole "This is (year)" has to stop -- This is 2011, why do we still have wars? Why are our cars still breaking down? Why am I not living in a city in the clouds? Where's the consumer brand hovercars? According to Street Fighter 2010 we should have been a futuristic society last year.

You compared the alt+tab ability to asinine things. Let me break it down further. You compared a feature in a video game which has been common place for years to things which have never been a reality. That's not me twisting your words, that's you being a typical white-knight.

It doesn't matter if it's 1992 or 2080, if things that were flimsy in the 90s is still flimsy in 2000s, it proves the year doesn't matter. Since you have reading comprehension problems, I'll requote what I wrote and emphasize it better for you:

I don't have reading comprehension problems, you apparently do though. I never said Crystal Tools sucks as an engine. I said the PC optimization is bad, which you even admit. Learn to read before you get all high and mighty.

What this means, and I hope you can understand this as I'm going to write this in plain english -- It's mainly an offline game engline.

I hope you can understand this:

The ability to alt+tab out of a game is common place in PC games. It has been common place for years. SE already has an MMO which failed to have this feature until years later. Windower, made by PLAYERS and FORBIDDEN by SE was around for YEARS before SE finally added their own windowed mode so players could alt+tab.

I never play in Fullscreen strictly because of Alt+Tab. I don't care one way or another, truthfully, because at least SE made a windowed mode this time. I would like a fullscreen windowed mode though, which is also a common feature on PC games.

The engine being an offline game engine has nothing to do with not allowing Alt+Tab in fullscreen mode.

Notice how you completely ignored this part to twist around what I wrote? This is why people say you need to get over yourself.

Why am I going to quote something that I am not responding to? Where did I ever claim that I would like an Alt+tab feature for fullscreen mode so I can have 2 games running? Nowhere. That part of your post is completely irrelevant to anything that I said. So tell me, why am I going to respond to something completely irrelevant that is nothing but a red herring?

Do you honestly believe that I care that some people on the interwebs think I need to "get over myself" because they don't understand the meaning of "twisting words," "quoting out of context," or they just can't keep up with how a conversation is actually held? I'm not quoting everything in your post because parts are irrelevant. I didn't "ignore" anything. Not quoting something irrelevant when I have nothing to respond with since it is irrelevant and not what I'm discussing doesn't make your case stronger and mine weaker. Learn to debate if that's what your set on doing, and stop out-right lying about my post history on other sites where I have never even seen your name posted.