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  1. #1
    Player
    Puwarh's Avatar
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    Character
    Pawah Mujuuk
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 60

    Master Summoner please help me.

    I just got my summoner to Lv. 50 not so long ago with iLv. 53 by my venture stuff and a bit help from my FC. Days ago I got myself into a dungeon and the tank said "You should do better DPS" I don't know it's a bully or not.

    Here is my question.
    My skill rotation now if there more than 1 foe on the tank is
    Bio2 > Miasma >Bio >run in to the mob and cast Miasma2 > Contagion> Bane > Shadow flare> Enkindle ruin/ruin 2 > repeate the DoTs> bane if more than 1 foe left

    for a single foe I would use Fester instated and for the bosses I would raging strike before DoTs and Spur>Rouse after contagion

    Am I doing it right? how should I improve? or the problem just iLv. that will take times to improved?

    Thanks a lot
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  2. #2
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    AmyNeudaiz's Avatar
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    Adahna Serafi
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 80
    You're pretty spot on with what you're doing, and yes I'm sure it is mostly an ilvl issue but you're going to see that a lot as SMN because some people still don't understand how SMN damage works.
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  3. #3
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Character
    Divine Gate
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Looks great. Just get swift cast for Shadow Flare and Blizzard II for AOE. The rest is iLvl
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    Altimis's Avatar
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    Character
    Altimis Farron
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    Aegis
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    I not do Miasma 2 if there only single target

    Miasma 2 is lower DPS per GCD than Ruin 2, I will just put up Raging Strike first and then 3 DOTs + Contagion then wait a sec for Bio and then Fester then Swiftcast + Shadows Flare and then spam Ruin 2 or Ruin 1 depends on MP

    Miasma 2 is best use when you see target more than 2, otherwise, just skip it
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  5. #5
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    Madoka's Avatar
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    Character
    Ayukawa Madoka
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90
    Miasma 2 is not baned, so it's best to just contagion and bane the original 3 dots ASAP. Miasma 2 in an aoe situation doesn't need contagion. You'd need to contagion it if using it on a boss to make it worth more than a ruin but it'd a good habit to get into. I still hardly use it single target myself.

    As for your damage you can be doing an ok bit, but not a whole lot given your ilvl. It'll go up as you get gear, you've already got a solid foundation though. Get into using shadow flare, rouse and spur and figure out when's best for an enkindle and you're good to go.
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  6. #6
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    BinaryJack's Avatar
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    Character
    Jack Magus
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    You're pretty spot on with what you're doing, and yes I'm sure it is mostly an ilvl issue but you're going to see that a lot as SMN because some people still don't understand how SMN damage works.
    Completely agree with this!


    Most players forget that SMNs are Damage Over Time with Fester as our Boom and Ruin and Ruin 2 as our Pew Pew's.
    Just make sure you incorporate Raging Strikes to up the damage and make sure you keep your DOTs up and running all the time.

    Even though we might not be the most loved class in dungeons, when the shit hits the fan, they bow down before us.
    Bio, Miasma 2 and Ruin 2 is instantly cast and on the run. Our Mobility exceeds that of BLM.
    Aside from that, we are the only other class that can Swiftcast and Raise.

    We are the Swiss Army Knife in the Party, ready for everything at any time.
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  7. #7
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    Geracia2's Avatar
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    Character
    Ivan Crow
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Do you party as SMN or ACN? just a general question. I see some people who like to run as ACN for a few more spells and skills over SMN. I also see those who pick ACN to party getting crap for not being able to use Fester.
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  8. #8
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    Judge_Xero's Avatar
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    Character
    Divine Gate
    World
    Exodus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by BinaryJack View Post
    Even though we might not be the most loved class in dungeons.....
    I'm still not sure why this is.

    Even on pulls larger than 4 mobs I find Summoner AOE is pretty good. Starting with Shadow Flare and Miasma II while the Tank is grouping up the Mobs.
    When the mobs are grouped you can DoT up an outside one and Bane. Then DoT up another that is centered between Mobs that Bane missed to further spread Bane. (up to 8 mobs)
    Only about 6 GCD before you have your full arsenal out and can start BlizzII spam or keep Miasma II up.

    If there's only 7 mobs you can usually Contagion your DoTs and then Bane. Then Blizz spam until Bane is up again and Bane off the mob closest to the ones without DoTs. They'll almost always take priority to get hit.
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    Kirinichibon's Avatar
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    Character
    I'zizi Pi
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 65
    No class is balanced around pulling half a dungeon at a stretch. BLM will be preferred for this because of their big burst aoe potential with unlimited targets.

    SMN still beats all other dps for trash aoe clears, though. Maybe not to an extreme degree, but at least they don't have to hold off to conserve resources.
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  10. #10
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    Character
    Robo Rat
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 60
    learn how to maximize the 3 aether you potentially get each minute.

    fester is where u get ur biggest damage from, make sure u getting 3 festers off a minute. while maintaining your dots. doing this greatly improved my dps. i was wasting aether, u must maximize it. it's ok and even necessary to use aether to get some mp in some cases or in bane also. but try to use your aether for festers. regardless of how you choose to use your aether, make sure u use it 3 times a minute. this is pro style.

    keep your pet buffed, spur and rouse should be always on cooldown. unless u saving them for your enkindle. on this note, make sure your enkindle is done with both rouse and spur.

    basic attack is pretty nice.

    shadow flare is important damage.

    hope this helps
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