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  1. #1
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    Avatar von Souljacker
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    Last Hero
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Thaumaturg Lv 90

    Coeurls are cats ; ;

    What reason in the lore is there for having coeurl "pups"? Coeurl are large cat class predator monsters and should be cubs.

    Is there something in the storyline I may have missed that explains this?
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  2. #2
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    Brady Phelan
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    Midgardsormr
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    Mönch Lv 70
    Different animals have different names for their young. Baby anteaters, bats, hamsters and coeurls are all pups.
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  3. #3
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    Bombastica Davion
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    Balmung
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    Fischer Lv 60
    Pup can apply to quite a few mammal creatures. And since the coeurl isn't really a cat, there doesn't seem to be a lore problem.
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  4. #4
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    Avatar von Velox
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Mateus
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    Gelehrter Lv 90
    Yes, there's a difference between being "cat-like" and physically being a cat. Coeurls are the former.
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    Avatar von Proto-ManX5
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    Issachar Drachritter
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    Balmung
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    Pikenier Lv 53
    There are coeurl pups and kittens...

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...m/671341068f4/
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    Anony Moose
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    Excalibur
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    Hermetiker Lv 100
    I thought this same exact thing, but even after going through the entire Wikipedia chart and seeing that pup is primarily for canids and rodents and has no presence in felidae, people still seem keen to defend it. I think they should keep the minion as kitten, but change the pups to cubs, which appear in both canidae and fenidae. But, even then, we still have Kyan's fight to fight - why does the pup have whiskers and no spots (implying that spots come later in development) if the kitten has spots and no whiskers? Does it temporarily lose its spots when it grows whiskers? What is this!?
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    Geändert von Anonymoose (08.05.14 um 09:30 Uhr)
    "I shall refrain from making any further wild claims until such time as I have evidence."
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  7. #7
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    Avatar von finiteHP
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    Tyger Maimhov
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    Excalibur
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    Beschwörer Lv 60
    Maybe the Coeurl kitten isn't really a coeurl. Someone's house cat got adopted by the mother Coeurl (the cat went along with it because, hey free food). This would explain why it warms to you so fast. It's used to people. But a cat found with a Coeurl must really be a Coeurl, duh!, so therefore Coeurl kitten! Won't we be surprised when it stops growing at house cat size and just has cat whiskers. Adventurers aren't the brightest bulbs. After all how else do you explain us thinking that a purple pig is a baby behemoth even though they look completely different. How the heck does that cute piggy snout and trotters become the bestial muzzle and paws of the adult?
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  8. #8
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    Ul'dah
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    L'yhan Nunh
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    Sophia
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    Gärtner Lv 92
    Zitat Zitat von Anonymoose Beitrag anzeigen
    I thought this same exact thing, but even after going through the entire Wikipedia chart and seeing that pup is primarily for canids and rodents and has no presence in felidae, people still seem keen to defend it. I think they should keep the minion as kitten, but change the pups to cubs, which appear in both canidae and fenidae. But, even then, we still have Kyan's fight to fight - why does the pup have whiskers and no spots (implying that spots come later in development) if the kitten has spots and no whiskers? Does it temporarily lose its spots when it grows whiskers? What is this!?
    I call a boycott on summoning the coeurl kitten minion! /protest
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    Yhan, the White Viper.

  9. #9
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    Avatar von Naraku_Diabolos
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    Hayley Westenra
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    You are forgetting that a lot of animals look different when younger. For instance, a lot of sea animals start out as very small creatures, like a barnacle and crab. The larva is WAY different than what the adult looks like. In fact, larva barnacles actually are considered plankton as they swim and are carried by the ocean currents. It is only when they find a suitable place to land on (say a pier or a whale) that they attach themselves to that object (cementing their bodies) and metamorphosis into their adult form. Crabs look totally different too, with being plankton. Look them up on YouTube videos to see how different they are.

    But yes, Coerul are feline-like creatures. They can be considered "kittens" as with the minion. Where does it say that they are pups?
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  10. #10
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    L'yhan Nunh
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    Sophia
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    Gärtner Lv 92
    Zitat Zitat von Naraku_Diabolos Beitrag anzeigen
    Where does it say that they are pups?
    There are monsters called "Coeurl Pups" which are Coeurls with no spots. I think there is also FATE text. Like a baby Dalmatian dog, going from spotless to spots in adulthood.

    If the kitten is truly a coeurl, it goes from a tiny, spotty creature with no whiskers [kitten phase] - grows whiskers and loses its spots [pup phase] - then has whiskers and spots [adult phase].

    We have a link between coeurl and torama (torama models being often called "coeurl" in some instances, like treasure maps), so perhaps like the torama, the coeurl kitten is just a relative or subspecies of coeurl?
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    Geändert von Kyan (08.05.14 um 10:52 Uhr)
    Yhan, the White Viper.

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