64-Bit and DirectX 11

[Wildsprite]

clearly have no idea what you're talking about. A 64 bit client handles memory virtually no differently than a 32 bit programme.

A 64 bit based programme simply handles more bits at once allowing for a slightly faster and less time consuming computation, but at best this is minimal.
FFXIV currently isn't struggling to process information, therefore a 64 bit client is simply unnecessary for the most part.

It could be done, but it isn't needed and the difference wouldn't be noticed by the vast majority (contrary to what you seem to think)

A 64-bit client would mean virutally nothing for FFXIV:ARR, please do your research on this before making baseless assumptions.

its safe to assume you dont really know the technical aspects of computing if you believe a 64 bit client wouldnt handle memory different
64 bit computing handles memory in 64 bit MEMORY chunks, it takes twice as many passes for a 32 bit program to do the same. you are right that some wont notice a difference but those people are on very high end PCs to begin with.
why don't you do your research before trying to take apart my argument.
there are more 64 bit computers out there than there are DX11 computers.
and even then most of the DX11 computers that would benefit from a DX11 client are high end PCs. there are low end DX11 PCs you know and DX9 is faster on PCs period even if you dont realize it, DX11 like DX10 only adds eye candy very little processing power. if you want a framework that adds both you need to go with OpenGL
DX11 is not all that despite what you want to argue and DX9c is not that far behind it because MS kept updating it due to how many people outright refused to upgrade from windows XP

[Shioban]

its safe to assume you dont really know the technical aspects of computing if you believe a 64 bit client wouldnt handle memory different

It's safe to assume you haven't read a single thing of what I typed or what any simple documentation will tell you.



The difference in how memory is handled is fundamentally the same, albeit it faster and more efficient through larger chunks.
Both 32 bit and 64 bit applications use memory linearly, which is the only point I've made.

As a 64 bit programme can bundle data more efficient through the CPU cache the less waiting time there is between CPU > Memory, therefore almost doubling the output.
For some applications this is fantastic, and a great use! However for ARR it's simply not necessary.

It simply allows for a larger chunk of bits to be processed at once.

32 bit has a limitation of 2,147,483,647 bits overall, which in terms of system memory is approximately 4GB of RAM.

64 bit has a limitation of 9,223,372,036,854,775,807 bits overall.

As ARR is not an application that requires more than 4GB of memory a 64 bit application is not necessary, as the client currently barely uses more than 1-2GB of memory overall.


Should the developers feel the application requires more than the 32-bit limitation of 4GB of memory, then they'll adjust and allocate the client to do so by producing a new 64-bit build of the engine and the final client build.




Overall the main point is;

A 64 bit client would have a semi-decent impact on performance.
A 64 bit client would require a complete rewrite of the various components required to run the overall game build.
The current 32 bit client is currently fast and stable enough to provide a fast, efficient client for all to use without issue, therefore there's simply no need to change it.

DX11 is not all that despite what you want to argue and DX9c is not that far behind it because MS kept updating it due to how many people outright refused to upgrade from windows XP

I never argued that "DX11 is all that", however it's what the development team are using and what they've always used.

Why use DX9c when they can use DX11 there's simply no reason to do so now considering as you yourself said it, the vast majority of machines are running 64-bit processors along side a DX11 reliant GPU completely rendering your point as moot.

If the development team wanted to use OpenGL they could have done so when rebuilding the game from scratch, but they didn't, they stuck with DirectX and that's the only reason I provided the reasons as to why they're using DX11 over OpenGL.




A lot of people play ARR because it's aesthetically pleasing, the development team feel they could add more to this as per a large community request for "More graphical features and expansion, as well as Higher Resolution Textures".

You can moan all you want about an unnecessary 64 bit client, but they're not going to add it unless its nessecary which currently it is not.