PSA Regarding Big Pulls

[Odett]

As weeks go by, I've been noticing that more and more tanks are doing incredibly large pulls (and often in a very inefficient manner). Is this the new standard? Big pulls don't always equal better pulls, especially if you have melee DPS in your groups, most notably MNK. Even if DRG's can Doom Spike, it eats TP fast as hell even with Invigorate. There are certain group compositions where big pulls ARE better, like BLM and BRD, but with melee, you could do smaller pulls and have a healer DPS as well instead of full time healing. If you're a tank, don't just assume that big pulls are always best, and instead look at your group composition before deciding how big you want to pull. Thank you.

[Nukocafe]

1. This is not a PSA
2. Make friends with a tank who will accommodate your pulling needs and you will solve all your problems
3. Become a tank who does little pulls
4. Become a bard or black mage that can accommodate big pulls.

[Titor]

As a healer I have no problem with, and even like, big pulls. It's so boring to toss one heal off, afk for 30 seconds until another heal is needed.
That being said I've been in some groups where the DPS just DO NOT know what to do. I was in a party with two BLM's and they single-targeted like they were gunning down the last 3 percent in a boss battle. A pull with 15ish mobs literally took about 5 minutes to kill down one by one. Tank and I were /really/ confused at the DPS not AoEing, and they didn't really respond as to why they weren't. It was weird.

[Luxx]

As a healer I have no problem with, and even like, big pulls.

I have a slight problem when it comes to healing as a sch. maybe i'm doing something wrong..but
when someone, mostly a WAR does a huge pull i have trouble healing...maybe coz im not a burst healer but a mitigater.
no problems if i was a whm tho. [which i was on a different character.]

I find it's a lot easier to heal with a scholar that a white mage. Because you have exactly that: mitigation, it allows the tank to take damage slower therefore giving more time for him to handle that entire huge mob. Should be spamming eye4 eyes, adloqs, and lustrates with your fairy on rouse if your tank's pulling 10+ guys.

i totally forgot abt ey4eye. and yes i use lustrate like a boss
when i can. i forgot about rouse since i only use it when i have eos out.
totally didnt think about that. i do pop SS too !
thank you. c:

[Nukocafe]

I have a slight problem when it comes to healing as a sch. maybe i'm doing something wrong..but
when someone, mostly a WAR does a huge pull i have trouble healing...maybe coz im not a burst healer but a mitigater.
no problems if i was a whm tho. [which i was on a different character.]

I find it's a lot easier to heal with a scholar that a white mage. Because you have exactly that: mitigation, it allows the tank to take damage slower therefore giving more time for him to handle that entire huge mob. Should be spamming eye4 eyes, adloqs, sacred soiling and lustrates with your fairy on rouse if your tank's pulling 10+ guys.

[Felis]

As a healer I have no problem with, and even like, big pulls. It's so boring to toss one heal off, afk for 30 seconds until another heal is needed.

You do it wrong
If you have 30 seconds time between heals, do some damage.

[infinitezero]

As a healer I have no problem with, and even like, big pulls. It's so boring to toss one heal off, afk for 30 seconds until another heal is needed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHoNWwhzh3M

BOOOOOOOOO!

Though, as a PLD, I would much rather have a BRD/??? than a ???/??? for ballad. WARs can prolly survive without a BRD.

Paladins don't need a bard to survive. I'd like to know the reason you think that.

[Lucke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHoNWwhzh3M

BOOOOOOOOO!




Paladins don't need a bard to survive. I'd like to know the reason you think that.

Never said PLD "need" ballad, just that's it's nice to have.

The only "real" AoE tool PLD has is Flash. RoH doesn't count. So, logically, to take and maintain aggro on a bunch of mobs would require massive use of flash to keep aggro from Flare-ing BLM. Flash is hard on PLD limited MP pool. Ballad helps by allowing the PLD to non-stop spam flash, or at least slow the use of MP so the AoEers can kill the mobs before the PLD runs out of MP.

And don't even tell me to tab target and switch targets during an aggro combo. That doesn't work when fighting 10+ mobs, sorry.

I've done fine with no BRDs countless times. Just that I'll have to use Riot Blade a couple times to get more MP for flash.

[infinitezero]

Never said PLD "need" ballad, just that's it's nice to have.

The only "real" AoE tool PLD has is Flash. RoH doesn't count. So, logically, to take and maintain aggro on a bunch of mobs would require massive use of flash to keep aggro from Flare-ing BLM. Flash is hard on PLD limited MP pool. Ballad helps by allowing the PLD to non-stop spam flash, or at least slow the use of MP so the AoEers can kill the mobs before the PLD runs out of MP.

And don't even tell me to tab target and switch targets during an aggro combo. That doesn't work when fighting 10+ mobs, sorry.

I've done fine with no BRDs countless times. Just that I'll have to use Riot Blade a couple times to get more MP for flash.

Your line from before "WARs can prolly survive without a BRD." makes the implication that paladins can't. Another thing, don't just assume what I was gonna tell you, and don't take an honest question so damn personally. Was just gonna say "Riot Blade". You'd be better off with your bard focusing on dealing damage or buffing the black mage rather than regenerating your MP when you have an ability that allows you to do it yourself.

NOTE: None of the above is a personal attack on you, so relax.

ATTN:

we have a back seat tank in the building

ATTN: We have a "Like" fisher contributing nothing to the discussion in the building.

[alhandra]

ATTN: We have a "Like" fisher contributing nothing to the discussion in the building.

is that a thing? who the hell cares about likes on this page? this isnt facebook lol