What with the short fuses?

[Lamentations]

I think the one word you were looking for is "grind".

People dont have patience because of the fact they have to do this crap over and over and the slightest mistakes most of the time slow this grind even more.

Blame the way the content is, not the players for having to put up with it.

It is not SEs fault that players do not have maturity of character, although I have complained without cease about the "cross-server" DF.

Using grind as an excuse to show what an asshat you are is just that, an excuse.

I also do not believe reporting people is getting anyone anywhere, SE isn't going to burn the overhead to track these people down sufficiently.

It is not the "content", it is the "players", the content just exacerbates the situation.

This is the same flawed ideology that says guns are dangerous simply because they "exist".

[infinitezero]

Welcome to the internet! A place where a lot of people hide behind their anonymity and say things to total strangers that they never would were they standing in front of them... Because they know you can't reach through your screen and smack their souls out of that waste of space they call their bodies.

[Nekodar]

I hate when a player jumps into a fight pretending to know it instead of saying that he/she/it is not experienced with it.

Better to have people groan at you at the beginning of the fight instead of being called out as a noob after you cause a wipe.

[Atkinsj7]

SMN seem to be getting alot of hate lately, was on mine last night helping an FC buddy in Brayflox, got in healer saw was SMN and a bard and said "FFS this will never work with a summoner" they then quit followed by the tank....
Some people have the patience of a two year old in game sometimes. I only get annoyed if the person should know better and just can't be bothered

As a Warrior that sr smn and melee are fine with speedrunning it. Melee helps kill the last boss by using the Lb to skip super bomb. Melees are good to have in brayflox hard

[Desidious]

Seems to me that people are starving for people with patience and the ability to teach. Been running normal primals, Ifrit and Titan, while teaching myself certain tank rotations and how to really hold emnity. I have run into some really self-entitled healers but no DPS so far.

The amount of people new to instances I've run into is a pretty high number and about 9 out of 10 listen to imput. More times than none, they apologize like crazy because they are used to tanks yelling at them. That's pretty sad because maybe after two wipes and the whole mechanics explained they get it and the feeling of satisfaction is wonderful. Takes maybe 5 extra minutes and everyone is happy. Some folks need to take note of this...

[Elladie]

On the other hand, some people are very nice. Went into HM hard last night to help a BRD friend get the kill he needed for his Atma book. I was SCH, and we also had our own WAR to tank. Up pops another BRD. We sigh to ourselves; no LB to deal with Amandine, meaning it could get hairy. New BRD says 'hi just to let know it's my first run.' So our WAR says 'that's fine, we'll take it slow so you can learn it. Thanks for telling us!' Nice smooth passage to first boss. Tank explains tactics (even tho he hates to type) bit of a scramble but we win. 2nd boss, so much moving, but we warn her that it's frantic and she copes really well, picks up adds, everything you could wish for. Tank explains that last boss is a DPS race, especially with the twin maid servants, and she does panic a bit then but we cheer her on and go for it. Everything goes beautifully to plan.

The point of my tale? We could have been dicks when she said she was new; I believe a lot of people are. She could have been a dick and not warned us, which would have probably meant at least one wipe (yes, Ash, I'm looking at you!) Thankfully, no one was a dick. I would have added her to FL as she played very well but different servers prevented that ...

[MirielleLavandre]

The OP story is sad - I'll often jump into Ifrit HM for or Titan SM to help out people who I know wait forever for tanks (while I'm waiting for a FATE or just relaxing). I've had people yell at me for them dying in Ifrit, just like that drg, when it is plainly their fault. I'll point this out and say if people don't like it then I can always leave - Never gotten kicked. However, if the tank in question was shy or just not liking being demeaned, then causing him/her to leave just made that whole group re-queue...and how sucky is that?

Last night I was doing Titan SM for fun via DF and there was an obviously new WHM who died 2 times and we wiped. A drg in coil gear/relic voted to kick her after harassing her the whole fight -- I declined, but the other new person must've agreed b/c she got kicked for 'harassment' >.< Harassment is not being new and having to figure out a new fight...that was the first time I've left a fight I went into hoping to help. I tried to DF again in the hopes of getting the same WHM, but got a totally different group. Short fuses indeed :/

[jars]

because to you this is your first time grouping with them, not the first time they have done the fight. imagine you had tried to do a fight 20+ times without success because people keep making the same mistakes. you would get frustrated too.

[Lumidus]

Ive met a lot of people in DF that are willing to teach/learn. Ive also some that think they are better then everyone else

[Cyrus-Wallace]

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And this particular scenario has nothing to do with elitism as some people mentioned in this thread. They don't even accept a constructive criticism, they will always feel they're under attack. I think they're all afraid all the way, and if people call them out or give them advice (implying that they're doing something wrong... how dare they...) they explode.

I remember when I was doing WP back then. I pulled the first pack of skellies back where the Wanderer cannot reach us. There was a summoner and I asked him to bring his Garuda-Egi with him, because it might be pulling the Wanderer. Ok, he didn't listen. The Wanderer saw us and started to attack the group while I was still tanking. We ran away and told the Summoner "Lol, that Garuda needs some extra training" Obviously as a joke, his answer was "You need training, noob". I just laughed because there was no point to start a discussion with him, about an issue that didn't matter anymore.