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    Legacy_Wolfwood's Avatar
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    Legacy Wolfwood
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    So about low roulette...

    So... I had this happen yesterday. I got on a low level job to level it up. In the q I had my friend with his 50 bard, a random 20ish tank, and a lvl 50 scholar. the tank was pure new. This was his highest level job and we got the notice "one of your party members is new blah blah blah.." lol. So as we were in the dungeon, the scholar proceeds to try and force everyone to go their way, skip mobs, skip chest, and yell at the newer player for not "speeding". shortly after the 2nd boss, they said, "jump off the cliff, its a short cut". A reply of, "There is no point, I'm here for experience. you can take the shortcut but i'm just going to pull the mobs that way then." Then the scholar left the party to eat the penalty just because it wasn't his way.


    My question is, why do some lvl 50s think they have all rights in the low roulette and to make players speed and miss exp/loot? Don't they know that the low roulette is mostly intended to help newer players complete content? If they want tomes, they could probably do 2-3 bray speeds in the same time to complete 1 whole dungeon and net an additional 90 myth...
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    Garlyle's Avatar
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    Alvis Yune
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    The short answer is, "because some people are assholes"

    The longer answer is, "unfortunately, some people really are just assholes"

    Take a quiet joy in knowing that ultimately he got absolutely nothing out of that run because he abandoned it.
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    Legacy Wolfwood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garlyle View Post
    Take a quiet joy in knowing that ultimately he got absolutely nothing out of that run because he abandoned it.
    yeah, thats what made it worth it in the end. he wasted 15 mins in the dungeon and then had to eat the penalty.
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    Elvin Rath
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    My question is, why do some low levels think they have all rights in the low roulette and to make players go slowly and loss his time? Don't they know that the low roulette is mostly intended to help newer players complete content? If they want exp, they could probably do FATE's on that extra time and get more exp.

    Because, I mean..is the same. Why can anyone enforce what he wants to the others, no matter who they are?
    That aside, I don't undertand why any lvl 50 do low level roulette. I only do it when I'm leveling a class. And even when I' leveling I want to do the dungeon as fast as possible. Why? Well. Multiple reasons. It's more efficient. It's more fun. You know how fun is doing Copperbell as a SCH? It is not fun at all. I can use "Follow" a rangued DPS and Eos will do all the work for me as long as I come near my mouse from time to time to move the camera. And in higher lvl dungeons it's almost de same..."almost".

    That's why I prefer big pulls. And I prefer to skip trash mobs when we can cause if you're doing roulette you get more exp if you finish in less time. At least I think so. And anyway, exp/time will be better.
    But of course I don't have the right do make people do as I say. And I shoudn't , that woudn't be fair. But of course I can leave if a dungeon that I think coud take 20 minutes to a good party is going to take 60 and I don't mind to take the penalty.
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    Just another turd in the DF as usual, you better off without him.

    If he wants the myth tomes so bad (only thing worth you get from low lvl roulette as lvl 50) then why don't you just make a PF group and speedrun Brayflox a couple of times? You will get much more tomes in less time.
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    sanosuke001's Avatar
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    Aiya Lorana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvin View Post
    My question is, why do some low levels think they have all rights in the low roulette and to make players go slowly and loss his time? Don't they know that the low roulette is mostly intended to help newer players complete content? If they want exp, they could probably do FATE's on that extra time and get more exp.
    Low Roulette isn't always people doing roulette. The system fits people looking for roulette into a dungeon with someone looking for that specific dungeon. The Roulette system was not designed for people to just spam for free stuff, it's there so you can get a bonus for helping someone in need.

    So, if you don't want to full clear, stop doing low roulette ffs.
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    Roth Trailfinder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvin View Post
    if you're doing roulette you get more exp if you finish in less time. At least I think so. And anyway, exp/time will be better.
    The DR exp bonus you get in a Low Level DR is based solely upon how far down someone gets sync'd, and has nothing to do with the time spent.

    If you are doing the Low Level DR for experience, the further down you get sync'd the less you may desire a full clear, but bear in mind that you are still getting experience for each kill. It may not be the 3-5 k exp you can get per kill in Aurum Vale, but if you wanted that experience then you should have queue'd directly for it. The only time you should expect a speed run, rather than a full clear, in any sub-50 dungeon is when you form the party yourself beforehand. Expect Low Level DR to dump you in with someone who selected that dungeon specifically for current level experience.
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    Marael Meowington
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvin View Post
    I don't undertand why any lvl 50 do low level roulette.
    Variety in myth tome farming. Easy gil. Low level gear for glamors. Company seals without having to bash your head against the FATE wall. Challenge log completion. etc etc etc.
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    Last edited by Marael; 05-05-2014 at 12:13 PM.

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    C'mell Cordwainer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elvin View Post
    That aside, I don't undertand why any lvl 50 do low level roulette.
    I'm an iL91 Paladin. And I do the low roulette every day, even when I don't have time to do the hard or expert roulette. Why?

    1) I like the low level dungeons.

    2) I like helping out new players.

    3) The rewards are kind of nice.

    4) I can have a warm-up dungeon, blow the dust off my skills, before going on and running harder content with my linkshell.
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    Kule Ito
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    I find it stupid why anyone would go into a DR expecting SR's. Even the high level or expert you get tanks that try to speed run when the other party members are under geared or lack experience.

    Like you said speed running BF HM in PF would be a way better use of their time so weird they even bother with DR.
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