ATMA nerf

[SweDDishB]

They just need to change it so the player knows where their time is going. Leaving things up to randomness makes a player feel frustrated after 4hrs of play and nothing to show for it.

[Merle]

They just need to change it so the player knows where their time is going. Leaving things up to randomness makes a player feel frustrated after 4hrs of play and nothing to show for it.

Hey! that's not correct. You ENJOYED 4 full hours of FATEs! FATEs are fun!

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Ok, ok, i know where is the door... /goodbye

[ErnestoGiovanni]

Well, I took relic to be something you can solo. I got all my relic weapons on pugs and DF groups, Atmas you can solo you can pug myth tomes and DF book challenges and solo fates or Pug them. I could get a regular relic in a few hours with hard grind upgrade it in a couple days because of the limited play time i have. But Atmas take a ridiculous amount of time. In the overall of things, if you're not investing a lot of time at each sitting, it takes a very long time. I grind fates for an hour a day sometimes up to 3hours. Still trying since day one to get southern thanalan and lower la noscea the rest i have.

[Odett]

I think the drop rate is fine. I spent almost a combined total of 25 hours in Central Shroud before I got mine, and only needed to do 3 FATEs in Western La Noscea for the next one; that's RNG for you. I think the best way to go about the farm is to not think that you'll get any ATMAs at all while you're doing the FATEs, and just go into autopilot as you move from FATE to FATE (listening to music helps with this). It's a long-term project, and you can't expect to get them all in one or two sessions.

What WOULD be nice is if you had to have a Zenith to get the quest (like it is now), but let you farm the FATEs with any class/weapon combination. I really don't see the reason to have your Zenith equipped for the farm.

[Versiroth]

Personally, I don't mind waiting. I hope that they end up making the Atmas drop rate a lot higher and also make each Atma purchasable with company seals. That way, if you are having bad luck after a ton of fates, you can simply buy that one and move on.

[Pyreflye]

Pretty good drop rate in my opinion.

That's the thing with RNG, though. You can never know whether it's a good drop rate or not (with unreleased numbers)
One player might farm for 2 days and complete it, while another might be farming for weeks.
RNG in this implementation is not fair to any one player, there's too much disparity.

FFXIV isn't too bad when it comes to the RNG side of things, which is why I love it. However, the whole Atma series just seems like such a lazy way of increasing the power of a Relic.
Getting a Relic had a questline, which I thought was great.
Getting a Zenith was rather dull, just farming 900 Tomes.
Getting an Atma is horrible.
Getting an Animus is also quite bad (Though, at least you can get an idea of your progression)

Just seems like very little thought/work went into getting Atma/Animus weapons.
What had potential to be hidden behind great questlines/boss fights, was hidden behind nothing but a horrible great wall of RNG.

[Felis]

As my fellow forum users mentioned, nerf ATMA by increasing the drop rate.





To 100% drop rate, preferably.

And decrease the FATE spawnrates. Like 1 FATE each 3 hours

What had potential to be hidden behind great questlines/boss fights, was hidden behind nothing but a horrible great wall of RNG.

Now, there were also RNG in the original relict quests.
Getting seals from hamlet defence (only to unlock the actual relict quest), overmelding the lv 50 class only weapon with 2 specific materias (weapon got destroyed if it failed, prices for a already overmelded weapon raised to 4m - 8m gil) and the 2 quest items in the dungeons if you needed longer than 17 minutes for a perfect speed run.

We can say, the ATMA part is more like the original Relict quest 1.22 (see hamlet seals) than the ARR relict quest (where the only requirement to unlock the relict quest is finishing the lv 50 job quest).

[abzoluut]

The only changes Id like to see are: larger quantities of myth drops, more equal places to get them from. Everyone runs Brayflox (me too), why should I do Lost City or Halatali.. As for the Atma drops: people with an Animus should not have to go through the same Atma grind again.

[Odett]

The only changes Id like to see are: larger quantities of myth drops, more equal places to get them from. Everyone runs Brayflox (me too), why should I do Lost City or Halatali.. As for the Atma drops: people with an Animus should not have to go through the same Atma grind again.

For variety? It's not all about "CMON GO FAST FAST PULL BIG GROUPS EVEN THOUGH WE GOT A DRAGOON AND A MONK AND I COULD BE DPSING WITH SMALLER GROUPS INSTEAD OF FULL TIME HEALING GO PULL THE WHOLE ROOM IVE BEEN FARMING MYTH FOR HOURS IM SO TIRED OF THIS DUNGEON EVEN THOUGH I COULD BE TAKING A BREAK AND DO ANOTHER ONE WHO CARES ABOUT FUN WAIT A MINUTE WHY AREN'T YOU SPEED RUNNING THIS IS A DUNGEON FINDER GROUP I DEMAND A SPEED RUN WHY ARE YOU UNDERGEARED? YOU NEED TO BE AT LEAST iLV 90 TO QUEUE FOR THIS iLV 55 DUNGEON GTFO PLZ"

[LordSliver]

The only bright side about Atma taking so long is those company seals to buy more Venture Tokens