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    If you're going to use that macro, Heavy Shot goes first.
    Yeah my bad, I just copy pasta'd it. Heavy shot should be first.

    Don't use this macro, at least not religiously.
    It's been tested and shown that the difference between a macro and doing it manually is pretty much non-existent.

    I've come to learn that some bards restrict their blood letter procs, or not knowing when it actually procs due to the use of this macro. Of course there are others who are aware of it when it's actually up etc.,
    This is why you use the /micon "Bloodletter". So your Bloodletter CD isn't off in some other section of the screen. Losing DPS isn't an issue if you pay attention and hit your BL procs between GCD's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blowfin View Post
    Yeah my bad, I just copy pasta'd it. Heavy shot should be first.



    It's been tested and shown that the difference between a macro and doing it manually is pretty much non-existent.



    This is why you use the /micon "Bloodletter". So your Bloodletter CD isn't off in some other section of the screen. Losing DPS isn't an issue if you pay attention and hit your BL procs between GCD's.

    I'am sorry to say you are missleading people with your statements. When you macro any skill it is clearly a huge and indeed noticeable dps loss.
    What happens when you in fact decide to macro your main skills with your off GCD skills such as "Heavy Shot" with "Bloodletter" and obviously Windbite, venomous and straight shot aswell is that you take away the ability to que your next skill. With the delay the game already has unless you live in JP and play on a JP server, by losing the queuing of a skill which actually happens when you click the next GCD skill you want to do while it is on cooldown. Because of this, you will always have a significant delay compared to someone that can master it without any macros what so ever.
    So for all you min-maxers, never during any circumstances do you use a macro for any skill on bard if you are looking for maxing it out, and this is not 1-2 dps we are talking about, more in the 10's to 20's or even more for that matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zleepyy View Post
    So for all you min-maxers, never during any circumstances do you use a macro for any skill on bard if you are looking for maxing it out, and this is not 1-2 dps we are talking about, more in the 10's to 20's or even more for that matter.
    Macroing BL to Heavy Shot is fine to me. I've tried parsing myself having them macro'd and not macro'd, it falls within the same range. No 10-20 DPS differences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zleepyy View Post
    this is not 1-2 dps we are talking about, more in the 10's to 20's or even more for that matter.
    Citation needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zleepyy View Post
    I'am sorry to say you are missleading people with your statements. When you macro any skill it is clearly a huge and indeed noticeable dps loss.
    It is a larger DPS loss to be doing nothing at all (GCD or BL or ME, anything). Most players in this game frankly do not have the muscle memory or confidence starting out to continue mashing BL/ME and ride their GCD while dodging or dealing with mechanics. Tying it to one button (and only one button, so GCD queue is not impaired by anything else) limit the downsides. As I've said, our BRDs use a 3-in-1 and do absolutely fine. Just need to understand that you spam the button intelligently. If GCD is about to come up in .5 seconds, don't spam it quite as hard so BL isn't clipping into the GCD time. It's pretty foolproof.

    People like to act like they have the dexterity (puns) to play full manual BRD, but most don't.
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    This is the Macro I use for the heavy shot, bloodletter, misery's end three in one... this macro I think helps me.

    /micon "Heavy Shot"
    /ac "Heavy Shot"
    /target <le>
    /ac "Bloodletter"
    /ac "Misery's End"


    What does this do, you wonder? Well with foes that like to become unforgettable momentarily (think DPS check). The heavy shot action will attempt to use Heavy Shot on the selected target. But if there is no selected target, I follow up with /target <le> which will target the last enemy letting just mash this one action safely until that sly primal returns from his death-move, and it'll target it again.

    That's the only Macro I use. The debate over macroing and it impacting dps is silly and impossible to substantiate. Do what works best for you. Not other's people idealism.

    I do try to have Hawk's Eye up before I use Flaming Arrow since it does increase the damage it does slightly the entire time Flaming Arrow is DoTing. It's a slight increase (maybe an extra 100 - 200 dmg total) but if your going to use something that sticks around in one place or a half minute, I think you'd want it to do as much during that half minute, even if it's a meager 100 pts.
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    Last edited by Laraul; 06-17-2014 at 06:55 PM.

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