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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose-Wild View Post
    You clearly know nothing about the GCD que system. You can't que attacks that are inside a macro. So every heavy shot, you are attacking late and hurting your uptime/dps.
    The 2 persons below you says otherwise too.
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    Last edited by Ooshima; 05-24-2014 at 07:38 PM.

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    The thing is that they can say w/e they want, the GCD que system is a fact, not an opinion. And the argument they are giving me is that people are terribad and slow and can't use BL when it resets. So instead of learning they should just only use the macro.
    The macro is ok for a new player, if you are in high end and you have been playing for a while you are just being lazy about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose-Wild View Post
    The thing is that they can say w/e they want, the GCD que system is a fact, not an opinion. And the argument they are giving me is that people are terribad and slow and can't use BL when it resets. So instead of learning they should just only use the macro.
    The macro is ok for a new player, if you are in high end and you have been playing for a while you are just being lazy about it.
    Well these players have achieved results and they personally tested and said no difference. Same goes to me. I believe in evidences.
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    ITT: playstyle vs subjectivity vs I do more dps than you bragging rights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose-Wild View Post
    The thing is that they can say w/e they want, the GCD que system is a fact, not an opinion. And the argument they are giving me is that people are terribad and slow and can't use BL when it resets. So instead of learning they should just only use the macro.
    The macro is ok for a new player, if you are in high end and you have been playing for a while you are just being lazy about it.
    Never said this. Said merely that doing something > doing nothing. A lot of (bad) BRDs do nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ooshima View Post
    The only macro'ed skill I have is BL on Heavy Shot which goes:

    /ac "Heavy Shot" <t>
    /ac "Bloodletter" <t>


    So that I can just keep spamming that macro and BL will always just fire off when available. Of course I have the BL button by itself on hotbar to monitor if proc'ed and/or manually weave it in between refreshing the 2 DoTs if it's available.
    I have {Misery's End} in there also. Many times, the 20% remaining on a boss still have enough HP for multiple Misery's End to trigger.

    Imagine a boss at low HP and the Bloodletter procs are spammed. People show me not putting out a lot of damage even with Bloodletter, Misery's End, and Heavy Shot clip spams, but it's there to use.

    I don't concern myself with how much damage I put out, but how often I'm attacking and staying alive.
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    Last edited by Jim_Berry; 05-25-2014 at 08:40 AM.

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    Curiosity question for those who say macros kill dps; I have my four attacks like this:

    BLOODLETTER MACRO ICON:
    Heavy Shot
    Bloodletter
    Misery's End

    WINDBITE MACRO ICON:
    Windbite
    Bloodletter
    Misery's End

    VENOMOUS BITE MACRO ICON:
    Venomous Bite
    Bloodletter
    Misery's End

    STRAIGHT SHOT MACRO ICON:
    Straight Shot
    Bloodletter
    Misery's End

    The reason I personally thought to do them this way is because, let's say I have 3 ticks of Windbite left and ready to refresh it. BLM knocked a chunk of HP; mob having under 20% health. Since that happened a split second before I hit the Windbite macro, Misery's End fired just as I hit the button, and if he's not dead, I hit the macro again for the Windbite (or Bloodletter if it's up).

    I noticed that no matter what order I place Misery's End in, it always fired first. With this, is the why people say my BRD can't push past 185 dps (whatever that is) even though I'm putting dots on everything and getting the Bloodletter procs?
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    I have another bar with each ability in it so I can see cooldowns.
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    Take the 3-in-1 out of most of those.

    Wide Volley micon
    /ac "Wide Volley" <t>
    /ac "Bloodletter" <t>
    /ac "Misery's End" <t>

    Bloodletter micon
    /ac "Bloodletter" <t>
    /ac "Misery's End" <t>

    I have those on Q and E, right next to my movement keys. Can easily be spam-hit while moving. My 1 2 3 4 is HS VB WB SS.

    Optimally you would only use the latter macro and no other 2 or 3 in ones. But if you've been doing 3-in-1 on everything your whole BRD career, consider limiting the amount of macros you use to wean off of it.

    Previously I had Heavy Shot as my sole 3-in-1 button, and spammed that between GCDs. The others are unmacro'd. Whatever is most comfortable for you to spam. But keep it to a limited amount of keybinds.
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    I think I see the issues here;

    Some of us are using controller only (me on PS4) while others are using keyboard (PC).

    I never played in PC, but from screenshots and videos I see, it's faster to point and click, which is why many PC players use less macros. For me, it's:

    - Use D-pad to manually highlight a target.
    - Hold L2 or R2.
    - Press face button.

    I remember watching a BRD playing on PC. They speed at which he clicked his abilities made him look glitchy with clipping lol...
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