I cleared t5 in with the party finder(10% echo).
I also cleared t6 with the party finder. but I've had a lot of pf turn 5 groups fail as well.

I cleared t5 in with the party finder(10% echo).
I also cleared t6 with the party finder. but I've had a lot of pf turn 5 groups fail as well.



Echo in T5 is kinda like Echo in Titan EX, if you've already been practicing it for a while it helps you get past the parts you probably already know a bit more quickly but you still need to deal with the mechanics.


If you queue up for Twintania in DF odds are you won't beat it even with the echo you will get people who don't know the fight and will wipe the group.
If you queue up twin for a PF you won't beat it. Unless there is some perverse luck, Twin is still reserved for semi-statics or FCs to this day.
Last edited by kukurumei; 05-06-2014 at 04:05 AM.
I think at 25%, that is when you can faceroll Twintania without knowing any mechanics. It's 15% right now, so in 1 month, try again.
To be honest, I don't think this will be the case. All the Echo in the world won't help you for Twisters, Divebombs and even Hatches, unless you are the only one in the group who doesn't know how to do those. In which case, Twelve help you in the Second Coil.
It is like Titan Extreme. The Echo merely increases your odds of success, but if you don't know how to do mechanics, you are probably not going to clear it even with a full Echo buff.
Last edited by DragonSlayer45; 05-06-2014 at 04:42 AM.


no, twin has and never will be facroll. no amount of echo or gear can protect you from a solo fireball, a conflag, divebomb into the wall, aetheric profusion, twisters, dreadnight, or possibly even hatch.
(also it probably won't protect you from death sentence on the later phases)
Twin isn't so hot anymore lol, so don't worry you'll get your plat trophy ;D
I gave up on the plat cuz i just can't do the levequests trophy.
The only thing that will kill u like it would in 2.1 and under are
-unstacked fireballs
-failed conflags
-twisters
-touching wall of flames
-dreads
-hatches thingy
Everything else is now trivial ad can be overlooked if you have 2.2 gear lol.
I waited for a long time for my clear and did it in a pf group that i just decided to join because why not lol.



That's like everything in the fight.
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