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    Warlyx Arada
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geobryn View Post
    i think it would make matters worse, as they would just farm pvp afk to get vanity
    now whats worse for pvpers ? having to put up with ppl afking in pvp or letting them win trade in their own world ?
    ehm....none? why players must suffer afkers or wintraders? none of the above is acceptable.

    Wintraders in others game are banned for some days and put at lowest rank (all rewards removed of course). repeateable offense is perma ban.

    why have pvp ranks/gear in the 1 place if players can cheat their way to the top?
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    Last edited by Warlyx; 05-06-2014 at 06:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlyx View Post
    ehm.... none?
    Enjoy your candy world, is not gonna happen xD. Is like hoping for players to stop doing Speedruns because dungeons are suppose to be fun and take them easy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geobryn View Post
    i think it would make matters worse, as they would just farm pvp afk to get vanity
    now whats worse for pvpers ? having to put up with ppl afking in pvp or letting them win trade in their own world ?
    People would actually do that? Win trading works because you win and lose, back to back losing because you're too damn lazy to do anything at all just seems ridiculously stupid. Not to mention it certainly is something you can report players for, where as reporting win traders is still in question.

    Still, whether win traders should be dealt with or not wasn't the focus of my post, again; I don't really care what happens to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    People would actually do that? Win trading works because you win and lose, back to back losing because you're too damn lazy to do anything at all just seems ridiculously stupid. Not to mention it certainly is something you can report players for, where as reporting win traders is still in question.

    Still, whether win traders should be dealt with or not wasn't the focus of my post, again; I don't really care what happens to them.
    well the thing is, you can get to max rank by constantly loosing, so if you ban win trade guess what is going to happen ? and you doesn't even have to be afk, just running around spamming tab+1 while watching movie would be enough to no get banned

    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    People would actually do that?
    aion dreadgion anyone ?
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    Why do you think people do this? Because SE gave PvP one of the best looking gear in the game and people want it glamoured on their PvE sets. And because you can't glamour it to PvE gear without 34+ rank, people take the easy way out. The wolf marks you can get way before rank 34.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    Why do you think people do this? Because SE gave PvP one of the best looking gear in the game and people want it glamoured on their PvE sets. And because you can't glamour it to PvE gear without 34+ rank, people take the easy way out. The wolf marks you can get way before rank 34.
    Yay another silly justification for essentially cheating the system. If you want all the "cool stuff" without doing any work go play a single player console game and enter some cheat codes. Its really just the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerowyn View Post
    Yay another silly justification for essentially cheating the system. If you want all the "cool stuff" without doing any work go play a single player console game and enter some cheat codes. Its really just the same thing.
    Never said it's justified. This is no different from DF myth farming and leaving after 2nd boss, because atm, there is no incentive to do it as intended, and for PvP, it can't really be fixed, make it a rule, and people do it under the radar.

    I don't do either. If I farmed myths, I'd do it in an FC grp.
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    Last edited by Sove92; 05-06-2014 at 05:20 PM.

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    ...researchers have used the effort justification paradigm to increase students' enthusiasm for educational activities by offering no external reward for students' efforts: preschoolers who completed puzzles with the promise of a reward were less interested in the puzzles later, as compared to preschoolers who were offered no reward in the first place.
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    PvP should have never been some kind of 'trial' you endure to get some cool glamour. Why does it have to be a gear treadmill instead of a fun activity?
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    i love how SE worked harder on PVP gear Sets than Soldiery or the new coil gear ,knowing that PVP is a ghost town , that only 5% or less participate on it (because it SUCKS and queues are 2h~)

    MNK soldiery is reeskined brd , brd coil gear is reeskined blm gear....copy paste moar SE!
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    Well i dont mind wintraders cuz they dont affect my gameplay in any way. Ppl runing around in pvp like headless chickens expecting rest of the group will carry them are far worse cuz they directly affect my pvp experience. They can even go afk and have around 50% win ratio like wintraders if they dont queue as healers, only difference are queue times 20min - 2h vs instapop.
    My problem with pvp is that its only 1 fight. If they made it atleast best of 3 like in TERA, you could discus strategy between fights to win next time etc.
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