PVP Wintrade Exploitation, is this reportable?

[NyneAlexander]

lets not forget the wonderful compliments and praise that this illustrious community gives you if you don't win a pvp match. In fact, I was just in a match where we were doing ok, and due to some rng, one of our members died first. Instead of trying to raise him and keep it movin, our whm said "throwing the match. you guys are useless".

I think i'd rather risk win trading lol.

[LeonRegulus]

lets not forget the wonderful compliments and praise that this illustrious community gives you if you don't win a pvp match. In fact, I was just in a match where we were doing ok, and due to some rng, one of our members died first. Instead of trying to raise him and keep it movin, our whm said "throwing the match. you guys are useless".

I think i'd rather risk win trading lol.

Oh no! Let's avoid anything that might have someone be mean to me on the internet!

[Alistaire]

You know, I think maybe you guys complaining really do have a point. Maybe I should go make a similar thread, title it "Dzmael Darkhold speedrun exploitation, is this reportable?"

Or maybe "blm/whm sleep spam to win escort leves, is this reportable?"

How about "market board repricing exploitation, is this reportable?"

If a game as big as WoW comes out and officially says "ya know, we don't really like this but it's not a bannable offense" what makes you guys think you have the right opinion on this?

[NyneAlexander]

Oh no! Let's avoid anything that might have someone be mean to me on the internet!

its not the being mean to me part. if i cared about that, i probably would cry myself to sleep over passive aggressive snark like yours. Its the "i fold, throwing the match" bs. With players like that, why shouldn't i win trade? 30 min in a queue to play with some self absorbed scrubs for some gear that i just want to glamour is not my idea of a good time.

[Mupod]

You know, I think maybe you guys complaining really do have a point. Maybe I should go make a similar thread, title it "Dzmael Darkhold speedrun exploitation, is this reportable?"

Or maybe "blm/whm sleep spam to win escort leves, is this reportable?"

How about "market board repricing exploitation, is this reportable?"

If a game as big as WoW comes out and officially says "ya know, we don't really like this but it's not a bannable offense" what makes you guys think you have the right opinion on this?

wtf are you talking about. I haven't played WoW in years but I guarantee you they do not put up with this kind of thing and will reset your rank if you try it. Either way, ignoring the community entirely is not the way to go.

[Okazaki]

wtf are you talking about. I haven't played WoW in years but I guarantee you they do not put up with this kind of thing and will reset your rank if you try it. Either way, ignoring the community entirely is not the way to go.

thats right, other games don't , the same crap happens but it is not a tollerated action. I checked on other games forums a couple weeks back, even SWTOR devs think its against the point of pvp to do such activities and have punishment for those caught doing it.

[tehomegaking]

Btw, for anyone saying you can do this in WoW and the GM's are onboard with it, you are talking out of your ass.... It did take blizzard some time to deal with this exploit, but actions were taken against win trading, though it is a hard situation to monitor.

From WoW forums:

As part of that commitment we regularly monitor gameplay, and have discovered an issue where some Arena teams have exploited the queuing system to obtain high team ratings, “dodge” unfavorable team compositions, and engage in win trading.

These, and all, exploitative activities are absolutely prohibited. We will investigate the situation carefully, and players that have been found to have participated in exploitation will be subject to the appropriate actions against their World of Warcraft accounts and characters, including:

Arena team deletion
Character MMR reset to 1500
All Conquest gear removed
Conquest earned tally reset, as well as all Honor and Conquest points removed.
All Arena achievements earned since the beginning of Mists of Pandaria removed.
3 day suspension

Ontop of this accounts were banned outright iirc.

I'd really stop using nonsense arguments like they don't care about pvp to justify cheating. It may take square some time to get around to the cheaters, but they do get around to them in the end. I'd expect an announcement such as the one above from square at some point in the future.

[Kerowyn]

Btw, for anyone saying you can do this in WoW and the GM's are onboard with it, you are talking out of your ass.... It did take blizzard some time to deal with this exploit, but actions were taken against win trading, though it is a hard situation to monitor.

From WoW forums:



Ontop of this accounts were banned outright iirc.

I'd really stop using nonsense arguments like they don't care about pvp to justify cheating. It may take square some time to get around to the cheaters, but they do get around to them in the end. I'd expect an announcement such as the one above from square at some point in the future.

LOL You sir/madam win +10 Internets!

And that I think is /Thread right there lol

[Shinun]

LOL You sir/madam win +10 Internets!

And that I think is /Thread right there lol

I doubt it sadly. People will still argue for it until SE takes actions.

[Okazaki]

Btw, for anyone saying you can do this in WoW and the GM's are onboard with it, you are talking out of your ass.... It did take blizzard some time to deal with this exploit, but actions were taken against win trading, though it is a hard situation to monitor.

From WoW forums:
As part of that commitment we regularly monitor gameplay, and have discovered an issue where some Arena teams have exploited the queuing system to obtain high team ratings, “dodge” unfavorable team compositions, and engage in win trading.

These, and all, exploitative activities are absolutely prohibited. We will investigate the situation carefully, and players that have been found to have participated in exploitation will be subject to the appropriate actions against their World of Warcraft accounts and characters, including:

Arena team deletion
Character MMR reset to 1500
All Conquest gear removed
Conquest earned tally reset, as well as all Honor and Conquest points removed.
All Arena achievements earned since the beginning of Mists of Pandaria removed.
3 day suspension



Ontop of this accounts were banned outright iirc.

I'd really stop using nonsense arguments like they don't care about pvp to justify cheating. It may take square some time to get around to the cheaters, but they do get around to them in the end. I'd expect an announcement such as the one above from square at some point in the future.

Thanks for that tehomegaking , I never seen or looked up WoW's official stance on things even though alot of the people here seem to think its the contrary. I believe FFXIV needs similar enforcement regardless of how popular the current PvP is.