PVP Wintrade Exploitation, is this reportable?

[Histoire]

Actually, solo queue (assuming you win) nets you 100% rewards, while grouping only gets you 50%. As with most of XIV (that isn't "hardcore" endgame), Yoshida would rather you play with completely random people for better rewards than enjoy the game with friends.

we're talking light party queues, which give you the exact same rewards as if you were alone.

[Snorgrind]

Actually, solo queue (assuming you win) nets you 100% rewards, while grouping only gets you 50%. As with most of XIV (that isn't "hardcore" endgame), Yoshida would rather you play with completely random people for better rewards than enjoy the game with friends.

that only happen in group of 2 or 3, if you join as 4 you have 100%

[Histoire]

that only happen in group of 2 or 3, if you join as 4 you have 100%

not true to an extent. if you join as 4 in a solo queue you will receive 25% of the rewards. you have to use the light party option for the rewards to be 100% as a full party.

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the more i post and read these incessant threads, the more i wonder, how many of you actually do pvp on a daily basis, and how many of you are simply furious that there are venues you simply refuse/aren't using to get the new pretty gear.

no one is begging you to win trade, but you're creating a problem that is easily bypassed with a system most people don't bother to use. you think the win traders are the problem, when the only problem is people like the ones creating this thread.

yes, solo queueing will be largely dead. but at the same time light party queues are simply so much better, that they aren't worth the time. a lot of people have realized this. have you thought beyond win traders as to why your queue is dead?

[Azurymber]

we're talking light party queues, which give you the exact same rewards as if you were alone.

I think you need to make a distinction between queueing up with friends to actually PVP
And queueing up with friends to just die instantly (no actual gameplay/pvp involved)

1 is having fun with friends
the other is bypassing the pvp part of pvp

If you win-trade to rank 40 and get a full set of gear it becomes a lot easier to get wins in solo queue as almost no low levels can do anything to you. I've been in groups where tanks were completely afk and dd's couldn't kill anyone for 5min

[Snorgrind]

you cant join solo queue with 4 ppl, it will force you to use light party join

[Nalien]

that only happen in group of 2 or 3, if you join as 4 you have 100%

Last time I joined with four I got 50%. Solo I'd get 60EXP/100Marks approx., light party I got 30/50. Maybe it has something to do with rank difference...

[Histoire]

you cant join solo queue with 4 ppl, it will force you to use light party join

no. you can face 4 man premades in solo queue. one of the many flaws with this system. it does not force you to use the light party queue.

the standard in light party with balanced ranks is 60 exp 100 marks.

exp and marks given are based on your party's total rank vs. the other party's total ranks.

seriously no one in here does pvp very much, none of you seem to know what's going on. XD

just relax and think about light party queues instead of pointing fingers at the people who just grind. win traders aren't the problem here. the people that completely forgot there is another side of pvp are.

now when people are using light party and win traders sit there withdrawing over and over like it's CT trying to line up together, we have an actual problem. and again, it won't be with the people. it's going to be the way pvp is set up. it's just not what it should be, and there's nothing we can do about that.

but i can pretty much tell you, there are 30+ parties in light queue, and most of them never see each other because they know how the matching system works.

same time, it will become a problem later when compacting happens and most parties queueing are around the same rank.

[Histoire]

I think you need to make a distinction between queueing up with friends to actually PVP
And queueing up with friends to just die instantly (no actual gameplay/pvp involved)

1 is having fun with friends
the other is bypassing the pvp part of pvp

If you win-trade to rank 40 and get a full set of gear it becomes a lot easier to get wins in solo queue as almost no low levels can do anything to you. I've been in groups where tanks were completely afk and dd's couldn't kill anyone for 5min

not necessarily. both are considered having fun with friends, the differences are in the way they choose to do it. you've simply applied your own feelings and your own thought process to it and called it fact.

just because a few dolts decided to queue up at rank 40 doesn't make them the problem. it's this craptastic pvp system we've been given. and chances are they sat there forever waiting because they over rank everyone. it's terrible for -everyone- that solos.

by this logic, whenever people hit rank 40, be it legitimately or otherwise, you're still going to be upset when they smash on you oh so easily. you're upset with the process, and i understand that, but they're by no means your main problem.

[Azurymber]

not necessarily. both are considered having fun with friends, the differences are in the way they choose to do it. you've simply applied your own feelings and your own thought process to it and called it fact.

just because a few dolts decided to queue up at rank 40 doesn't make them the problem. it's this craptastic pvp system we've been given. and chances are they sat there forever waiting because they over rank everyone. it's terrible for -everyone- that solos.

how is joining a pvp match to die (not actually pvping) any different than going into a titan ex and glitching it so you never get hit?
Both are ignoring the game design and getting an "easy win" for rewards

[Nadrojj]

I don't pvp, could care less what goes on over there, my question is, why are you mad that they are doing this? All that will happen is they will hit rank 40, get the armor they want for vanity, and not pvp again.