PVP Wintrade Exploitation, is this reportable?

[Shinun]

This isn't the first game with pvp where people use methods to rank up thats not intended and those people usually get banned. If people can get banned for cheating the pve content like coils. I don't know how anyone can assume nothing will happen to them for doing the same in other aspects of the game even if its not enjoyable for majority of players.

Just because you want to use an item for glamour doesn't mean you should get to do it without the work thats intended. So RMT should be fine? Botting should be fine? Just because your too lazy to work for something doesn't mean it's ok to use the system in a way that wasn't intended.

Let's say the people who wintraded only did it for glamour. Then they shouldn't be allowed at all in any pvp content. They got items in a way that wasn't attendend and will be able to abuse other players trying to partake in future content that might not have the items because they are still in the process of the legitimiate grind

[NyneAlexander]

Let's say the people who wintraded only did it for glamour. Then they shouldn't be allowed at all in any pvp content. They got items in a way that wasn't attendend and will be able to abuse other players trying to partake in future content that might not have the items because they are still in the process of the legitimiate grind

I would be totally 100% fine with this. In fact, if SE offered a version of the pvp gear with 0 stats that you could farm solo, I'd be ok with this too. Then you could actually crack down on pvp win trading because you'd know the people doing it wouldn't be doing it for glamours.

So by your logic RMT and botting is fine. If the system is poorly made let the players respond to it how they like. Oh ya that does already happen and they get banned.
So if let's say a future patch happens and people who wintraded without a definite "no" from SE came get banned. They have no right to argue against it because, they knew they were using the system as it wasn't intended and just wanted to respond to the poorly made system as it was.

This is a no. No one said botting is ok. No one is endorsing using a 3rd party program to automatically queue for pvp, enter with your character, and run around until the match is over to get points. No one is saying this is ok for PvE either. Its really not the same because you aren't manipulating the code to do something its not supposed to do. If SE was really worried about win trading, then SE should have implemented a system that didn't allow 8 people to find a way to queue 4v4 together.

[Shinun]

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If a debate this strong is going on on multiple threads then clearly theirs a divide on it, and whatever way SE decides to agree on their will be an effect. If they agree with wintrading the Wolves Den will be in an even worse state then it is now. If they disagree with Wintrading what can they do.

1. They'll either look the other way for the people who already abused the system.

2. They'll Rollback players who wintraded.

3. They'll ban players who wintraded.

All in their right to do whatever they choose to do. But, I can guarentee if they ban players. The people who were wintrading because they didn't like the system as it is and decided to take matters in their own hands will not be happy on the subject, even if beforehand they thought even in the slightest SE didn't want them to do what they were doing.