PVP Wintrade Exploitation, is this reportable?

[Warlyx]

i love how SE worked harder on PVP gear Sets than Soldiery or the new coil gear ,knowing that PVP is a ghost town , that only 5% or less participate on it (because it SUCKS and queues are 2h~)

MNK soldiery is reeskined brd , brd coil gear is reeskined blm gear....copy paste moar SE!

[Snorgrind]

Well i dont mind wintraders cuz they dont affect my gameplay in any way. Ppl runing around in pvp like headless chickens expecting rest of the group will carry them are far worse cuz they directly affect my pvp experience. They can even go afk and have around 50% win ratio like wintraders if they dont queue as healers, only difference are queue times 20min - 2h vs instapop.
My problem with pvp is that its only 1 fight. If they made it atleast best of 3 like in TERA, you could discus strategy between fights to win next time etc.

[Nalien]

I don't do this but if they made a rule against win-trading, that would simply make their PvP even less populated. Do you really want to slap more rules onto an already dead part of the game?

How would it make it less populated? People win trading generally aren't playing with the rest of us, they're in their own little kiddies pool. Remove them from PvP and it wont really make a difference to those of us who actually PvP the proper, incredibly pathetic and broken, way.

I don't particularly mind win traders, but I do find it very sad that, in comparison, people who actually PvP are effectively being punished for doing so. Should they directly do something about win trading? I don't care. What they should do is do something about the incredibly broken rewards system already in place. That's the real issue, win trading is just a symptom. Change matches to a best of 3 or 5, with a win chain boosting rewards if you keep winning. Take the PvP Challenge Log, put it in the PvP profile instead, and expand it greatly, while also throwing Wolf Marks into the rewards. Win 3 matches and play 10 is pathetic, where's "Deal X damage total", "Heal X damage total", "Kill <Job>", "<status effect> enemy X times", "Reach X Morale", "Win X times in a solo queue", and other things that would actually make PvPing slightly more interesting and rewarding?

[Geobryn]

Remove them from PvP and it wont really make a difference to those of us who actually PvP the proper, incredibly pathetic and broken, way.

i think it would make matters worse, as they would just farm pvp afk to get vanity
now whats worse for pvpers ? having to put up with ppl afking in pvp or letting them win trade in their own world ?

[Warlyx]

i think it would make matters worse, as they would just farm pvp afk to get vanity
now whats worse for pvpers ? having to put up with ppl afking in pvp or letting them win trade in their own world ?

ehm....none? why players must suffer afkers or wintraders? none of the above is acceptable.

Wintraders in others game are banned for some days and put at lowest rank (all rewards removed of course). repeateable offense is perma ban.

why have pvp ranks/gear in the 1 place if players can cheat their way to the top?

[Merle]

ehm.... none?

Enjoy your candy world, is not gonna happen xD. Is like hoping for players to stop doing Speedruns because dungeons are suppose to be fun and take them easy...

[Velo_Vandore]

Please explain how win trading works. If you get teamed up with a random group I don't understand how this can happen.

[Sove92]

Please explain how win trading works. If you get teamed up with a random group I don't understand how this can happen.

Group makes 2 parties of 4 and queue up. There are not many people doing PvP (especially the 4-man premade one, or at least it was like that when I played my few rounds during first days of 2.1, most ppl queued with 3 ppl, taking a random healer) and DF puts priority on own server, so the chance of facing the other party is very high. Then they take turns for losing on purpose.

[Nalien]

i think it would make matters worse, as they would just farm pvp afk to get vanity
now whats worse for pvpers ? having to put up with ppl afking in pvp or letting them win trade in their own world ?

People would actually do that? Win trading works because you win and lose, back to back losing because you're too damn lazy to do anything at all just seems ridiculously stupid. Not to mention it certainly is something you can report players for, where as reporting win traders is still in question.

Still, whether win traders should be dealt with or not wasn't the focus of my post, again; I don't really care what happens to them.

[Elim]

Wintrade fights reduce the number of people that are actually playing PvP, as all the players are just "fighting" each other endlessly. No one will see a lower queue time b/c 8 people engage in wintrading, in fact, assuming that at least some of these 8 people actually want the gear or the achievement (or enjoy it), there would be more players queueing if there were no wintrade fights.

So yes, please, rule this illegal. It can only benefit the actual player base.

If it was made illegal some people wouldn't bother trying to grind out gear/skills the slower way and simply wont PvP. . You do realize that when the people who win-trade get bored/reach their goal for the day, most of them do normal PvP.

So it could, in fact, lower the amount of people PvPing... which is currently a very small pool of people.