PVP Wintrade Exploitation, is this reportable?

[Okazaki]

I do have some FC members that strictly want pretty clothes. So I will suck it up and go with them and another group of 4 from our FC. We won't be playing with you, or bothering you, or one upping you in anyway. Just sigh, get it over with, and get the heck out. If SE says it's against ToS, then I'll respect that and will never darken the doors of the area again. Until then, I'll just sit on the ground, get killed, rinse and repeat. If we're not playing you and just getting inconsequential pretty things, I really don't see how it is or should be skin off anyone's nose.

The thing is this gear, is a thing of merit. Just like current coils High-Allagan gear, its not ok to exploit your way for vanity, work for it if you really care about it. I can respect peoples view on having vanity, but respect our view for having something that we actually achieve.

[Elvin]

Merit? You don't get high allagan gear by getting killed in Coil for 100 hours.

You can get the PVP gear by getting kill there for 100 hours. So... Merit? No. Patience, maybe, but not merit. When I see a guy on pvp gear no one thinks "That guy must be good", or at least almost no one. Most people will just think "Wah, that poor guy liked the PVP gear so much that he grinded it for hours".

[Okazaki]

Merit? You don't get high allagan gear by getting killed in Coil for 100 hours.

You can get the PVP gear by getting kill there for 100 hours. So... Merit? No. Patience, maybe, but not merit. When I see a guy on pvp gear no one thinks "That guy must be good", or at least almost no one. Most people will just think "Wah, that poor guy liked the PVP gear so much that he grinded it for hours".

If your goal is to lose in pvp my friend you are setting the bar extremely low, merit and achievement for dedicating yourself into one thing should be reason for reward.

and yes, you put in hours into coil, its called practice, as do wins in PVP.

[65shion]

Win traders doesn't affect your gameplay in any way. Why what others do in their free time bothers you so much? There is absolutely none people playing PvP, that queues take HOURS to pop unless you group up with a really low rank. Where is that competitive scene you are talking about, are we really playing the same game?

You should make a thread asking SE to actually fix it so more people pvp. Instead you ask to ban 20 ppl that are there for whatever reasons, glamour or boredom, don't care. Would that solve anything? If it's personal satisfaction i sincerely advice you to grow up.

[Okazaki]

Win traders doesn't affect your gameplay in any way. Why what others do in their free time bothers you so much? There is absolutely none people playing PvP, that queues take HOURS to pop unless you group up -snip-

You should make a thread asking SE to actually fix it so more people pvp. Instead you ask to ban 20 ppl that are there for whatever reasons, glamour or boredom, don't care. Would that solve anything? If it's personal satisfaction i sincerely advice you to grow up.

Excuse me , but people exploiting through dungeons also dont affect my experience directly, and SE is more than happy to punish those who abuse it. The queues take long because the pool of people legitimately doing pvp has decreased, and having people exploit the queing system to never show up on anyone elses game is a DIRECT result that does in fact affect my queue time/ experience as you call it.

[Beetle]

Excuse me , but people exploiting through dungeons also dont affect my experience directly, and SE is more than happy to punish those who abuse it. The queues take long because the pool of people legitimately doing pvp has decreased, and having people exploit the queing system to never show up on anyone elses game is a DIRECT result that does in fact affect my queue time/ experience as you call it.

Because people doing pvp tradewins causes you to have slower que times? Wrong. They Que faster because the groups are near each other ranks. If a group cant match another group near there rank some downtime happens (5mins) and it ques with the next lowerest ranking group. Also not many people actually queing for pvp so you would still have instences to enter. When que times take hour... that when stuff is full and also busy.

Say Rank4 Group vs Rank160 group it take about 5-10mins still to actually que up together regurdless if it was a premade or not. Its SE way a matching ranking teams together. If group rank50 vs rank 45 they que within about 5secs.

[Beetle]

double post

[Logo]

Because people doing pvp tradewins causes you to have slower que times? Wrong. They Que faster because the groups are near each other ranks. If a group cant match another group near there rank some downtime happens (5mins) and it ques with the next lowerest ranking group. Also not many people actually queing for pvp so you would still have instences to enter. When que times take hour... that when stuff is full and also busy.

Yeah because having a ton of overgeared wintrading cheats in iLVL 90 gear won't affect frontlines at all.
Thanks for ruining the game.

[Woona]

Yeah because having a ton of overgeared wintrading cheats in iLVL 90 gear won't affect frontlines at all.
Thanks for ruining the game.

not saying this will happen, but some people just want the gear for vanity. i doubt a lot of them will continue pvping and do frontlines once they get their pretties.

[Beetle]

Yeah because having a ton of overgeared wintrading cheats in iLVL 90 gear won't affect frontlines at all.
Thanks for ruining the game.

Just because you have the gear doesn't mean anything about how you play in PvP. So your saying its a gear check to even enter frontlines.
Pretty sure gear not gonna do anything when I got 16 people bashing me in the face in pvp.