PVP Wintrade Exploitation, is this reportable?

[LalaRu]

Well, elo-like ranking is the greatest thing I can see on pvp rankings, that is a dream made true if I see that.
People needs be prepared to rank downgrading too

[Merle]

Well, elo-like ranking is the greatest thing I can see on pvp rankings, that is a dream made true if I see that.
People needs be prepared to rank downgrading too

I played League of Legends for a while before 2.0 and... yeah, i can imagine it... *nightmares*

[Okazaki]

Then, about supporting wintrade because PvP in its actual state does not fit your expectations, does not makes any sense at all. Things I don't like, means I can freely cheat on? Pure nonsense.

Pretty much this.

[Edellis]

It's probably not technically against the ToS. People do this in WoW to this day, although I vaguely remember a blue post saying it's "Against the spirit of PvP" or some such PR spin.

Any system that encourages wintrading in something like PVP is a bad system. I'm almost 99% positive Square Enix does not condone the behavior.

They're going to need to implement some kinda system and increase the natural rewards for winning, because they aren't high enough for players to enjoy real matches over fixed ones. If people didn't care about such things, there would be no wintrading.

Well, elo-like ranking is the greatest thing I can see on pvp rankings, that is a dream made true if I see that.
People needs be prepared to rank downgrading too

Have you played league of legends?

Elo is terrible for team-oriented gameplay, especially if, like league, you aren't going to factor in important stats in the ranking.

[Lumidus]

Win or lose, you get pvp xp. So its all in due time. The ques are a pain and you need thousands of matches to even hit rank 40. In an hr i get 2-3 matches.... barely a dent in at rank 18. Why is ranking up in pvp more of a grind then pve? Makes atma fate farm look instant

[Azurymber]

One of the reasons the queues are so long is because most people win trade instead of queing up for non-group matches.

[Logo]

It's probably not technically against the ToS. People do this in WoW to this day, although I vaguely remember a blue post saying it's "Against the spirit of PvP" or some such PR spin.

[Xandim]

IMO they aren't exploiting the game. The only way I see they can do this is make 2 light party and join the DF at the same time and only accept when the it goes on both ends. Its not that different when you ask a healer/tank to 'join in progress' just to help finish a dungeon or when 2 friends start the roulette at the same time to see if they end up together in a group. BUT if they are using something else (like a bug in the coding) then yes, they are cheating. If only, they are exploiting (as in taking advantage) that not a lot of people are actuallly PvPing, so its easier for them to group together. Well, imo anyway, =P

[Logo]

IMO they aren't exploiting the game. The only way I see they can do this is make 2 light party and join the DF at the same time and only accept when the it goes on both ends. Its not that different when you ask a healer/tank to 'join in progress' just to help finish a dungeon or when 2 friends start the roulette at the same time to see if they end up together in a group. BUT if they are using something else (like a bug in the coding) then yes, they are cheating. If only, they are exploiting (as in taking advantage) that not a lot of people are actuallly PvPing, so its easier for them to group together. Well, imo anyway, =P

Maybe you should be more informed when you next decide to share your opinion.

[Kerowyn]

From what I understand they are taking very specific steps to circumvent going up against players other than the people they are trading wins with. Exploiting the programming doesn't mean just bugs or hacks. So all the justification of "its not a hack so its not cheating" is bullcrap. Any other MMO with PvP in their games have policies against win trading. While it can be hard to catch sometimes its still against the rules of their games and go contrary to the spirit of competition.

Anyone that win trades to gain fast Ranks is doing so because they don't want to make the effort in the first place. Its on of the reasons we have so many RMT/Power Leveling spammers in game. Cause lazy bums don't think they should work to get something.