So what our Blm true numbers.

[Shadowzanon]

I am quite frustrated when it comes to this. I hear on my server some blm claiming they can pull 350 to 380 sustained dps on turn 8. Im still wondering well just damn how. its really frustrating me to no end how i cannot even come close to those numbers and during that fight i do not stop casting at all. the few times im moving im casting stuff. im popping my skills on cds to use as much as i can during that fight and popping potions as well. I am either at 300 ish or a bit lower or higher give or take.

I am not waiting for mana to regen if i cast a bliz 3 and dont have enough for thunder 1 or 2 but have for bliz 1, cast that, have enough mana for t2, but most of the time i do hit it right where i do get enough mana to cast either of the two thunder spells, my thundercloud procs are t3 ones and i do pop firestarter as soon as it procs or slightly after another fire 1 is going off.

So seriously what in flying hell am i doing wrong.? My only guess its, well how parsers are being used one thing that gave me peace of mind that one of the blm who told me he pushes out 350 to 380 dps with his 110 wep, ended up pushing just a bit above 300 when the same person who parses me has parsed him.

Then i see posts of people claiming 350 to even over 400 but proof to back it up and this bugs me, is this just everyone using different parsers which make our numbers so different? i know some people put a delay on one known parser and that does keeps their numbers up for when there is downtime during the fight.

Its to the point that I was supposed to get my 110 wep upgrade this week, but since we are pushing to turn 9 that has been scrapped and the 2 other dps will now get it before me because t9 is a big movement fight and my upgrade will be marginal compared to the other two. so it makes me feel like i picked the wrong class. it makes me feel like a damn shitter who does not know how to blm which isnt that darn hard at all. I am just frustrated of people saying they can pull bigger numbers than me as a blm but when parsed by the same person its similar to my numbers.

I just wanna know is there a general parser used, is it used as is or are they altered in any way to conduct a session. If thats the case should there not be a rule set for all those who count apples to follow so we dont get huge differences in the numbers. bleh...

[Exstal]

I'd say they are lying。　Black Mage isn't such an indepth class that you should have far off numbers from each other. Once you know the rotation, you pretty much get the same numbers as everyone else. Since Black Mage is RNG class anyway, I wouldn't fret too much, however people saying 400+ they better provide some proof.

[Xisin]

I'd say they are lying。　Black Mage isn't such an indepth class that you should have far off numbers from each other. Once you know the rotation, you pretty much get the same numbers as everyone else. Since Black Mage is RNG class anyway, I wouldn't fret too much, however people saying 400+ they better provide some proof.

This is really a myth among BLM. If it were true you wouldn't see BLMS that range from excellent to terrible. On levi I've seen lows on blm as bad as 160, while I have popped 310 on it. Titan ex I've seen terrible low sub 150 parses while I've topped at 307 (2.1). Point is is well its like any other job where there are skill gaps.

And honestly fixing dps isn't simply using <insert rotation here> it is much more than that.

[AmyNeudaiz]

A good counter-intuitive trick is to not use all of your MP on Fire I casts, leave your MP at or just below 1000 MP and start Blizzard III then into Thunder II then from there you should go right back into Fire III and Fire I spam. I don't main BLM but I've downed up to T5 and all EX primals on it using this and I do better DPS than when I would deplete my MP.

[Exstal]

This is really a myth among BLM. If it were true you wouldn't see BLMS that range from excellent to terrible. On levi I've seen lows on blm as bad as 160, while I have popped 310 on it. Titan ex I've seen terrible low sub 150 parses while I've topped at 307 (2.1). Point is is well its like any other job where there are skill gaps.

And honestly fixing dps isn't simply using <insert rotation here> it is much more than that.

I don't parse anymore, haven't since the start of 2.1 but when I did see low BLM it was because their rotation was dumb. Most common spam Fire III all day every day, flare into transpose on single target. Fixing DPS to an acceptable standard is rotation. Exceeding that is being better than the average joe (then again, average joe is trash).

[Zencurse]

People TEND to use their highest parse they've seen when making a benchmark for DPS. On top of that Black Mages are very RNG based. Sometimes you'll get 2 firestarters and a thundercloud in your first Astral Fire burn then never see a proc for minutes. Due to this, sometimes when someone says "over 400" what they mean is "I'm a decent black mage who got a million procs, then we killed the boss, and I saw how much I did" (especially on T8).

That said, Black Mages having "not much variation" is indeed much more myth than fact. But it comes not from proper rotations as most Black Mages I see are at least competent with their rotation. Where the lines start being drawn is when movement becomes an issue. Fights like the ex primals and T6 have a lot of movement and a talented black mage who knows how to manage his procs and aetherial manipulation to move about the battlefield and use their Manawall/Ward to ignore mechanics that would cause them to move will easily do 20-30% more DPS than a Black Mage who follows the A-B-C rules and nothing more.

tl;dr take everything blms say about their numbers with a grain of salt. We have a heavy rng component of our rotation, variation is going to happen and people like to use the best of themselves as marks.

[Shadowzanon]

This is really a myth among BLM. If it were true you wouldn't see BLMS that range from excellent to terrible. On levi I've seen lows on blm as bad as 160, while I have popped 310 on it. Titan ex I've seen terrible low sub 150 parses while I've topped at 307 (2.1). Point is is well its like any other job where there are skill gaps.

And honestly fixing dps isn't simply using <insert rotation here> it is much more than that.

And this is where i call bullshit, if you can pull out those numbers put up the proof. but then its not that , you obviously would know a thing or 2 over other blm if the numbers are that big of a diff. If you pull these god like numbers as you boast, i did see you claim over 400 dps on turn 8, well then make a good guide. I know clearly well you just do not do x rotation as you need to adapt to movement and not pop out a target dummy perfect world mentality. I am aware that i should not wait till i have to little mana to go to bliz 3 and thunder after. I know how to use my wards and all to bypass mechanics to keep me dpsing. Yet im that shitter blm you point out. if you are that awesome you claim to be well write about it, help out those fellow blm who can only bask in your e-juices cuz your e-peen gushes all over them. Id like to know what you do that is so different to make you pull those numbers, see if i can adapt to that and be capable of pulling it off myself.

[Zamii]

my guess is they have 2 bards in group that are rotating through foes a lot of the time, which with an i110 wep would be prety easy to pull to 350-400 dps on a blm
with int pots, auto hits, poison pots, etc, the dps all adds up rather quickly

[ZeroAmano]

my guess is they have 2 bards in group that are rotating through foes a lot of the time, which with an i110 wep would be prety easy to pull to 350-400 dps on a blm
with int pots, auto hits, poison pots, etc, the dps all adds up rather quickly

ilv96 with ilv95 allagan stuff and pot and food i pulled 310 in T8 and our BARD doesn't FOE. I don't even use poison pot.
So if add FOE. I would be able to pull 350 if my RNG is good. 400 isn't a mystery if you know what you are doing with your GEAR and ROTATION and...LUCK
Because I could pull 320+ at dummy if I'm lucky with my RNG that doesn't killing my dps.
Oh and my avg dps is around 290.

[Zencurse]

ilv96 with ilv95 allagan stuff and pot and food i pulled 310 in T8 and our BARD doesn't FOE. I don't even use poison pot.
So if add FOE. I would be able to pull 350 if my RNG is good. 400 isn't a mystery if you know what you are doing with your GEAR and ROTATION and...LUCK
Because I could pull 320+ at dummy if I'm lucky with my RNG that doesn't killing my dps.
Oh and my avg dps is around 290.

I'm ilvl 100 with the 110 staff, our bard foes at the beginning of the fight and momentarily at the end of the fight (So rather sparingly, we get approx. 30 seconds of it) and I do 340-370 (RNG dependent). So yes, if I had foes the whole time I could easily see 400. But again, the point is Black Mages have a lot of RNG and foes req dependency to pull those kinds of numbers and in attempting to answer the OPs question I'd say you'd have to consider what the black mage player means by "400 dps" to be a combination of luck, at least mild skill, the fight itself, and consider the bards role. Not their, testing on the dummy dps.