So what our Blm true numbers.

[Shadowzanon]

I am quite frustrated when it comes to this. I hear on my server some blm claiming they can pull 350 to 380 sustained dps on turn 8. Im still wondering well just damn how. its really frustrating me to no end how i cannot even come close to those numbers and during that fight i do not stop casting at all. the few times im moving im casting stuff. im popping my skills on cds to use as much as i can during that fight and popping potions as well. I am either at 300 ish or a bit lower or higher give or take.

I am not waiting for mana to regen if i cast a bliz 3 and dont have enough for thunder 1 or 2 but have for bliz 1, cast that, have enough mana for t2, but most of the time i do hit it right where i do get enough mana to cast either of the two thunder spells, my thundercloud procs are t3 ones and i do pop firestarter as soon as it procs or slightly after another fire 1 is going off.

So seriously what in flying hell am i doing wrong.? My only guess its, well how parsers are being used one thing that gave me peace of mind that one of the blm who told me he pushes out 350 to 380 dps with his 110 wep, ended up pushing just a bit above 300 when the same person who parses me has parsed him.

Then i see posts of people claiming 350 to even over 400 but proof to back it up and this bugs me, is this just everyone using different parsers which make our numbers so different? i know some people put a delay on one known parser and that does keeps their numbers up for when there is downtime during the fight.

Its to the point that I was supposed to get my 110 wep upgrade this week, but since we are pushing to turn 9 that has been scrapped and the 2 other dps will now get it before me because t9 is a big movement fight and my upgrade will be marginal compared to the other two. so it makes me feel like i picked the wrong class. it makes me feel like a damn shitter who does not know how to blm which isnt that darn hard at all. I am just frustrated of people saying they can pull bigger numbers than me as a blm but when parsed by the same person its similar to my numbers.

I just wanna know is there a general parser used, is it used as is or are they altered in any way to conduct a session. If thats the case should there not be a rule set for all those who count apples to follow so we dont get huge differences in the numbers. bleh...

[Exstal]

I'd say they are lying。　Black Mage isn't such an indepth class that you should have far off numbers from each other. Once you know the rotation, you pretty much get the same numbers as everyone else. Since Black Mage is RNG class anyway, I wouldn't fret too much, however people saying 400+ they better provide some proof.

[Xisin]

I'd say they are lying。　Black Mage isn't such an indepth class that you should have far off numbers from each other. Once you know the rotation, you pretty much get the same numbers as everyone else. Since Black Mage is RNG class anyway, I wouldn't fret too much, however people saying 400+ they better provide some proof.

This is really a myth among BLM. If it were true you wouldn't see BLMS that range from excellent to terrible. On levi I've seen lows on blm as bad as 160, while I have popped 310 on it. Titan ex I've seen terrible low sub 150 parses while I've topped at 307 (2.1). Point is is well its like any other job where there are skill gaps.

And honestly fixing dps isn't simply using <insert rotation here> it is much more than that.

[Exstal]

This is really a myth among BLM. If it were true you wouldn't see BLMS that range from excellent to terrible. On levi I've seen lows on blm as bad as 160, while I have popped 310 on it. Titan ex I've seen terrible low sub 150 parses while I've topped at 307 (2.1). Point is is well its like any other job where there are skill gaps.

And honestly fixing dps isn't simply using <insert rotation here> it is much more than that.

I don't parse anymore, haven't since the start of 2.1 but when I did see low BLM it was because their rotation was dumb. Most common spam Fire III all day every day, flare into transpose on single target. Fixing DPS to an acceptable standard is rotation. Exceeding that is being better than the average joe (then again, average joe is trash).

[Shadowzanon]

This is really a myth among BLM. If it were true you wouldn't see BLMS that range from excellent to terrible. On levi I've seen lows on blm as bad as 160, while I have popped 310 on it. Titan ex I've seen terrible low sub 150 parses while I've topped at 307 (2.1). Point is is well its like any other job where there are skill gaps.

And honestly fixing dps isn't simply using <insert rotation here> it is much more than that.

And this is where i call bullshit, if you can pull out those numbers put up the proof. but then its not that , you obviously would know a thing or 2 over other blm if the numbers are that big of a diff. If you pull these god like numbers as you boast, i did see you claim over 400 dps on turn 8, well then make a good guide. I know clearly well you just do not do x rotation as you need to adapt to movement and not pop out a target dummy perfect world mentality. I am aware that i should not wait till i have to little mana to go to bliz 3 and thunder after. I know how to use my wards and all to bypass mechanics to keep me dpsing. Yet im that shitter blm you point out. if you are that awesome you claim to be well write about it, help out those fellow blm who can only bask in your e-juices cuz your e-peen gushes all over them. Id like to know what you do that is so different to make you pull those numbers, see if i can adapt to that and be capable of pulling it off myself.

[Xisin]

And this is where i call bullshit, if you can pull out those numbers put up the proof. but then its not that , you obviously would know a thing or 2 over other blm if the numbers are that big of a diff. If you pull these god like numbers as you boast, i did see you claim over 400 dps on turn 8, well then make a good guide. etc etc.

After a post like this I'd rather not help you lol.

All I was pointing out was that there are skill gaps, and its not just "hit 1" as the guy I quoted before was almost stating.

My turn 8 set up is blm blm brd drg drg war whm sch btw. The bard hits his req. at the beginning and on the 2nd dread, other than that I'm on my own. I do use pots, and poison pots don't count toward parse numbers anyway.

[Shadowzanon]

After a post like this I'd rather not help you lol.

My big issue with ya is well you are boasting something that is untrue. Ill explain where im comming from. When i check my numbers its the full extent of the fight, nothing more , nothing less. It irks me to see someone boast they can do x ammount of dps on a turn but within it they are admitting to only a fraction of said fight but tote out they can pop x amount of dps on that fight. The issue here is that is not you're true ammount of dps of that fight i know is less but not drasticly so. The problem comes when people skim this and then come out n say well there are blm who pull out x amount of numbers in this fight and you are nowhere close to that. This is something i have to deal with not cuz of your post n numbers but due to how many people just boast the most dps they managed to do that was only a fraction of the fight and not its entirety. Id like to know, with your gear, what you really pop on that entire fight, an avarage, that helps motivate one to push foward if they see they are not so far behind. If my runs would go from 280 dps to 320 due to rng n stuff ill avarage out at 300, its a more realistic number in my case instead of me claiming my highest. its the purpose of this thread.

[ks3v3n]

And this is where i call bullshit, ...

stopped reading and advice every other blm not to help that 'lil padawan =)

there are 3 stages of being a blm above average:
1) learn your rotations and skills
2) adapt that information to every different encounter (you have to learn the mechanics of the encounter in synergy with your skill set)
3) don't stop improving with every single engage

edit:
i understand y your raid is willing to push the other dps and not you, tho. me as a raidleader would def do the same x)

[Shadowzanon]

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Oh trust me I know my rotation well and use all my skills to the best of my ability, i do not follow a set dummy rotation, if there is movement and i need to use scathe or something else that will hit my mana where i cannot pull out the perfect rotation i will made sure i am consistantly casting something and not waiting for mana because i went to low before going to umbral ice. In my group i am the most adaptable to encounters and usually i give them tips to what i can do that can help the group entirely. For example on turn 8 i know manaward blocks the damage from the towers, this allows me to take 2 stacks on the first and 3rd triple towers as long as i do not get allagan. this not only opens up another player to tag towers but it keeps me in the same spot to burn as much as i can.
I do not settle, i do want to improve, which is why i wanna know what we truely can avarage during full durations of fights, not 5 to 7 min in a fight or during a battlevoiced foe requim portion of a fight. I wanna know the whole thing as i base my dps on that.

[AmyNeudaiz]

A good counter-intuitive trick is to not use all of your MP on Fire I casts, leave your MP at or just below 1000 MP and start Blizzard III then into Thunder II then from there you should go right back into Fire III and Fire I spam. I don't main BLM but I've downed up to T5 and all EX primals on it using this and I do better DPS than when I would deplete my MP.