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    Player Akiza's Avatar
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    Rhel Eryut
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90

    Summoner Fixing The Egis

    Ifrit- add fire aoe attack that leaves a 20s burning dot

    Titan- add a earth aoe attack that leave a 20s heavy dot which puts it at the top of threat table.

    Garuda-add twister aoe attack that leaves a 20s wind burn dot.
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    Jediman's Avatar
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    Masterdarkjedi Cerberus
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 46
    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Ifrit- add fire aoe attack that leaves a 20s burning dot

    Titan- add a earth aoe attack that leave a 20s heavy dot which puts it at the top of threat table.

    Garuda-add twister aoe attack that leaves a 20s wind burn dot.
    Great idea rather letting the SMN do the DoTing. we wana see more fire power from EGI maybe 80% more and 20% from the SMN not the other way round. It kind of pointless having the EGI then.
    Or we just copy WoW game as warlock because it worked there lol
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    Razard Baleth
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Definition of insanity. What is it?
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    I'zizi Pi
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    Faerie
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    Arcanist Lv 65
    Quote Originally Posted by Razard View Post
    Definition of insanity. What is it?
    It is this.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...grade-from-ACN
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...165244-what-if.....
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Egi-rebalance
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...Glamours/page2

    I love theory crafting my favorite class as much as the next person, but this is unnecessary...
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    Jediman's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirinichibon View Post
    I think there were more threads like that I think you forgot to quote them O.o
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    Adahna Serafi
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    Excalibur
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    Blacksmith Lv 80
    STOP MAKING THREADS ON THE SAME STUFF OVER AND OVER
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    Kitru Kitera
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akiza View Post
    Titan- add a earth aoe attack that leave a 20s heavy dot which puts it at the top of threat table.
    Not gonna happen. Regularly used provoke mechanics are pretty strong when you get down to it (since it basically renders the need for most high enmity abilities redundant); making it an AoE that also deals damage is just nuts. If it were to get something like this, I would expect it to get a single target Provoke that has been weakened significantly compared to the tank one (6y ranged instead of 20y; 60 sec CD compared to 40 sec; potentially require it to make a check to hit rather than being auto-hit).

    Also, simply adding extra attacks doesn't "fix the egis". You're just straight up buffing them when SMN (and by definition their egis) are already plenty strong. If you want to talk about "fixing" them, you need to realize that there will have to be trade offs, either by getting rid of something the SMN gets (and just SMN; you can't change the ACN without also changing SCH and SCH is incredibly well balanced) or something that the egi itself gets.
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    Ardan Lauriers
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    If you knew Akiza's posting history, do you think he or she would care about balance?
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    Adahna Serafi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    Also, simply adding extra attacks doesn't "fix the egis". You're just straight up buffing them when SMN (and by definition their egis) are already plenty strong. If you want to talk about "fixing" them, you need to realize that there will have to be trade offs, either by getting rid of something the SMN gets (and just SMN; you can't change the ACN without also changing SCH and SCH is incredibly well balanced) or something that the egi itself gets.
    I don't even play SMN but half the changes Akiza wants would destroy my favorite job Scholar, which is why I voice up in every thread this person makes.
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    Aldo Von'alexandros
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    Leviathan
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    What if se takes away egis then improves the dps and puts 2 skills from the egis to smn then smn lb its a ex primal comming and doing the main attack and depends on the lb level ok ok i can dream dont i?
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