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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Only those of us that didn't play FFXI at launch, or that have their eyes and memories completely clouded by nostalgia.
    You played at Japanese launch? i played at ps2 launch and continued for 5 years. I noticed some copy/paste in ffxi but was never disappointed with it because of the incredible environment that ffxiv lacks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    You, my friends, lack eyes.

    ... And about the "large world, many zones", you obviously didn't play FFXI at launch.
    I started FFXI in January 2004. That was 7 years ago. It still had a MUCH richer world than FFXIV does now in 2011. You can bash FFXI's JP launch all you want but it won't excuse XIV's current ass design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bita View Post
    You played at Japanese launch? i played at ps2 launch and continued for 5 years. I noticed some copy/paste in ffxi but was never disappointed with it because of the incredible environment that ffxiv lacks
    Same with Bita here, started FFXI with my wife (GF at that time) on PC launch (JP version) and played for 6 years, I know XI had lots of copy paste but they did a good job and tried to make it harder to catch by just adding little more changes to those areas, FFXIV can do the same and I don't mind as much but they reused waaay too much. I know it's cost saving method, I made my own games before so I know how this works + memory usage on copies areas are a lot less, I do understand also, so I'm not complaining about them copy/pasting but since each zone is so huge they used the same areas too much in my opinion.

    And don't say if you didn't see the map someone made from 2CH or the video showing copy/paste is reason people found about this, if you have your eye's opened and simply look at the map you can tell it's exact same... Try go to 5-8 caves in Limsa map and by then you already know it's going to be dead end. Same with caves in Morduna.. I like to adventure around, like in FFXI I would run to different parts of Jugner being chased by the tiger at low level ending up in a place full of mushrooms and go wow! It's the small stuff this game is lacking in some of the maps.

    I noticed in the cities if you look carefully the designers put a lot work in details on the building structures and I'm impressed by that but outside maps... not impressed as much.
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bita View Post
    You played at Japanese launch? i played at ps2 launch and continued for 5 years. I noticed some copy/paste in ffxi but was never disappointed with it because of the incredible environment that ffxiv lacks
    You didn't notice because there wasn't a troll with an agenda spamming youtube with videos and more trolls spamming every forum perpetuating it. FFXI features a TON of asset recycling, just as much as every videogame out there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Demacia View Post
    I started FFXI in January 2004. That was 7 years ago. It still had a MUCH richer world than FFXIV does now in 2011. You can bash FFXI's JP launch all you want but it won't excuse XIV's current ass design.
    Ah, blissful ignorance.

    You do know that by January 2004. Final Fantasy XI aleady had almost two years of development post-launch, including a full boxed expansion?

    Just letting you know here.
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    There too much green everywhere, so yeah the JP are right and I think the majority will notice that everywhere you go, it GREEN, GREEN, GREEN due to so much copy paste of tree and hill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkrose View Post
    There too much green everywhere, so yeah the JP are right and I think the majority will notice that everywhere you go, it GREEN, GREEN, GREEN due to so much copy paste of tree and hill.
    You know, a forest tends to have a certain palette ranging between brown and green.

    Exactly like Gridania.

    Of course you can have pink forests too, but I'm not sure if I'd like those in FFXIV...
    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3153/...99c2f0d6_o.jpg

    Oh boy! Look at those pink trees, they are copy/pasted! har...
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    hate it...............................................DOT DOT DOT
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  8. #38
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    FFXI had a lot of copy/paste look at Rise of the zilart the towers on every floor was copy paste then you see them again in Beaucedine tower Most caves where copy paste Sky also was full of copy/Paste, COP area, Whitegate. Top of that the last pack for FFXI was just a big copy/paste of the area we know but just in the pass but ppl did not care much about it did we?

    FFXIV is full of copy/paste but the problem is size FFXIV would be port to ps3 and they have to worry about the ppl who have 40GB HDD which i think no one should have it does not cost a lot to buy a HDD. But if they did not copy/paste the load on our PC/PS3 would be big to load every lil thing in the area diff type of flowers,sand, anything you can think about.

    FFXI Vs FFXIV i think i'm more happy having Zones for ffxiv if that means we could get less copy / paste. I did not mind zones that much in ffxi with now FFXIV allowing us to zone and still get chat from /tell /p /l zones would not be a big problem in ffxiv.

    I agree with the ppl saying cut the area and add more zone and make them looks different.
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    The best thing they could do is to just add more to the zones, give it some decorations and maybe add some lore to it.
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