Riding Chocobos in town?

[giftforce]

Then I'm all for the "Enter town with a chocobo and die" option.

As long as it's immersive.

Forcing your hand and making you auto-dismount isn't realistic. Maybe I didn't want to dismount, did you ever think of that.

[Shipp]

As long as it's immersive.

Forcing your hand and making you auto-dismount isn't realistic. Maybe I didn't want to dismount, did you ever think of that.

Maybe I didn't want to go to the bathroom after drinking a gallon of water. Oh, I wet my pants? RL completely killed my immersion.

Immersion != you get to do whatever you want, whenever you want, however you want. You are entering a town knowing that you are not allowed to enter on a mount. This means that when you hit that zone line, you have given the game permission to dismount you. That is not a hard concept.

[Kaizlu]

Immersion != you get to do whatever you want, whenever you want, however you want. You are entering a town knowing that you are not allowed to enter on a mount. This means that when you hit that zone line, you have given the game permission to dismount you. That is not a hard concept.

Many forget that. It's seems people just want to do anything to this game.

This is not about being a good or bad feature, to me it's seems that it's just plain old personal preference. As for me, I wouldn't like to have chocobos inside any of the cities. If it kills your immersion, well it kills my FF memories.

[Jynx]

I guess we should up the immersiveness of the game, so when your logged out for a few months your character is dead and unplayable because so much time has passed.

[giftforce]

I guess we should up the immersiveness of the game, so when your logged out for a few months your character is dead and unplayable because so much time has passed.

Ah touche, but now you're just being ridiculous. There's a line which you can draw between a game and realism, and there's a point where one can say "it's just a game" legitimately. Forcing people to not go into a town on their chocobo is not one of those times. It's completely unnecessary and ever so annoying.

Anyways, speaking of permadeath, if you logged out for a few months in FFXI, sometimes they deleted your character.

[Jynx]

Ah touche, but now you're just being ridiculous. There's a line which you can draw between a game and realism, and there's a point where one can say "it's just a game" legitimately. Forcing people to not go into a town on their chocobo is not one of those times. It's completely unnecessary and ever so annoying.

That fine line is subjective, I think walking into town on a Chocobo is silly as the towns were not designed to accomidate any sort of vehiculer travel. It's one of those times I'm willing to put immersion aside for my convience in the game "To not have my vision blocked with people "Walking" with towering chocobos on the footpaths of town.

Convience and Immersion will always clash, it's just a matter of what people are willing to sacrifice for the sake of either.

*edit*

I would also quote general game design theory:

1. Does it add any function to the game? If no disregard If yes "Step 2"

2. Does it detract from normal gameplay or inhibit it in any way/shape/form If yes can it be changed to accomidate? If no disregard.

[Preypacer]

Ah touche, but now you're just being ridiculous. There's a line which you can draw between a game and realism, and there's a point where one can say "it's just a game" legitimately. Forcing people to not go into a town on their chocobo is not one of those times. It's completely unnecessary and ever so annoying.

Anyways, speaking of permadeath, if you logged out for a few months in FFXI, sometimes they deleted your character.

You only find it "ridiculous" because it's not what you want. If it's what you wanted, you'd find it perfectly reasonable and would even be thinking of ways to defend the idea. Just like you are with the idea of being able to ride a chocobo in town, which I'm sure you've noticed, others happen to feel is ridiculous.

We don't even *have* Chocobos in the game yet and you're already talking about what is and isn't necessary.

People kept asking for chocobos so they could get around more quickly...
It's confirmed we're getting chocobos.
Are people happy?

Pfft, of course not. It's only resulted in the flood-gates being opened and now people are demanding "omg... we need to be able to jump with them, or it's not realistic and immersive", "OMG, we need to be able to ride around town with them, or it's not realistic and immersive".

SE's only just acknowledged that they're giving a foot, and folks are already demanding a mile.

Has it ever occurred to some of you that it would be perfectly realistic and immersive for a city to have rules preventing dozens of chocobos crowding the streets, sidewalks, shops, vendors, doorways and other things? That's *more* immersive and believable than to think that a city is going to find something like this - Click Here, or this: Click Here - perfectly acceptable.

And if we're talking "realism", Gridania has some open areas, however they're connected by a lot of narrower, winding paths. Limsa is mostly comprised of long, narrow walkways. Ul'dah has only one large area - the road around its circumference. Most everything else is narrow pathways and market areas.

They weren't allowed in towns or cities in FFXI and it made perfect sense. They're large animals that take up a lot of space and can clutter an area up quickly. They're ideal for traveling quickly across long distances, but there's no reason to be riding around on one in a city where everything is easily reached on foot.

[viion]

I think it would look silly, Uldah is quite big in most areas so it seems fine but what about Limsa? Running choco around the small shops and stairs, look silly.

i would much prefer when you hit city zone the chocobo qurks, runs back a bit and in chat it informs you the chocobo does not want to enter, no popup, you can dismount then if you wish.

[Aveline]

There are cutscenes that show Ul'dah as a bustling city with people riding chocobo-drawn carriages down the city streets. I'd love it if the city actually looked that way (and not just in cutscenes now and again), so I'm all for mounts being rideable on city streets.

[Preypacer]

There are cutscenes that show Ul'dah as a bustling city with people riding chocobo-drawn carriages down the city streets. I'd love it if the city actually looked that way (and not just in cutscenes now and again), so I'm all for mounts being rideable on city streets.

Watch the opening again.

The only chocobos you see in that opening are the ones pulling the wagon your character arrives on, and the ones pulling the parade wagons. In all cases, they are being used as beasts of burden and are tethered.

At no point do you see single chocobos being ridden by any citizens, not even by a city guard. Furthermore, you don't see NPCs riding around on Chocobos in-game either.

So, your idea that you could see tethered and restrained chocobos drawing around large carriages or wagons carrying travelers is conceivable. However, it still wouldn't support having dozens of individuals riding around, or standing around cluttering everything up and blocking vendors, doorways, stairways, etc. with large yellow birds.

There's no reason to believe that wouldn't be the case, because it is in any other MMO I've played where you are allowed ride mounts in a city or town area. If people are going to be hanging out in a city for a prolonged period of time, chances are they're spending a lot of time sitting or standing in one spot, or running relatively short distances. Why would you need a large mount to stand in one spot, or to run short distances?

Weighing the convenience of "not having to run a minute or two - max - on foot", against all the issues it would cause having them all over the place... the result is pretty obvious to me: People riding chocobos in town is a bad idea.