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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    While not quite lyrical, I would love an annotated lineup of the leitmotifs in the new alliance raid. There's a bunch, basically every part of every song gives me that feeling of 'I know this from somewhere' but never strongly enough to be sure.

    The only one I've got for sure is that the non-final boss theme has a grab from Order Yet Undeciphered that's been reused in a few Allagan-based areas since.
    Pleased to read I'm not the only one who felt that way! There is a nagging sense of familiarity to some of it and I can't quite put my finger on it yet!
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    There is absolutely Japanese in the Rubicante song
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    While I'm unsure if Forged in Crimson actually has lyrics I spent like a bit listening to the first minute and 16 roughly seconds of the song to see if there is any real lyrics. Near the end of the song it DOES sound like their singing but that might purely be brain rot because I love this song. So I went and wrote what I roughly heard for the first minute and 16 seconds but I'm pretty sure the song doesn't have lyrics. I am confident its real people singing and not synthesized like Ultima, Worms tail, endcaller ect. But rather this song uses Phonetics which has the sense of sounding like real words but its just people speaking gibberish. Either way I wrote what I believe I've heard whether or not anyone else hears what I heard feel free to listen. Only the first like minute and 16 seconds roughly as said before.

    ??He brings end times??
    ??He comes for us??

    Hydaelyn Hydaelyn
    As our mother we want to die
    (We want to die)
    Fires rise, Flame is hot
    ??We pray for salvation??
    ??Do you know death, Death, Death??
    ??Come bring death?? And save us.

    It’s ok, it’s almost here
    ??For the world to rejoin??
    ??Everybody come??
    ??(Everybody come)??
    Stay your tears, face your fears
    In this end, ??nobody will be left??
    ??Violence we sought??
    Begins, the end ?????

    Ignite the flames in my soul
    Forged in crimson, rise up

    ???, Give in
    To this, Blasted Melody
    All of us, Die now
    For this, the end of times

    Now we go
    Now to die
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero-ELEC View Post
    "Forged in Crimson" doesn't seem to have any actual lyrics being just chanting so I know it's not exactly in the scope of the thread but like... it's totally based on Hydain's cover of the song from back in the day, right?
    When i first hear it, i thought it was totaly Hyadain song of four fiends
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    Four fiends name are italian (i think) scarmignlionne, cagnazzo, rubicante and barbariccia so i think (maybe) that lyrics might be in latin or italian maybe ^^ cause i maybe hear some latin or italian words
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roxas33150 View Post
    Four fiends name are italian (i think) scarmignlionne, cagnazzo, rubicante and barbariccia so i think (maybe) that lyrics might be in latin or italian maybe ^^ cause i maybe hear some latin or italian words
    The Four Fiends have names of the demons of the Malebranche from Dante's Divine Comedy. (Fun fact: the same is true of Calcabrina and Grafficane!)

    I'm like 99% sure the lyrics to Rubicante's version of the fight are fancy-sounding nonsense, personally. But worth saying that on Twitter, Soken seemed to coyly hint at the fact that we don't know the song credits for that song, so it might not just be based on Hyadain's version.
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    Confirmed, forged in crimson has lyrics and was arranged by hyadain!
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    We've got Forged in Crimson lyrics! (So yes, I was wrong about them being nonsense; hell, they're even in English!)

    Fears rise, blades fall
    His void calls

    Fires blaze, waters rage
    Gods above are deaf now to your cries (deaf now to your cries)
    Earthen scourge, gale winds surge
    Look within and seek your own salvation
    Do you claim to have the strength to brave the flames of battle, conquest, death, annihilation

    Here souls weep, sorrow steeped
    Wherefore would you mourn the coming dawn (mourn the coming dawn)
    Save your tears, face your fears
    In despair you will find no safe harbour
    Dare to stoke the fire in your soul, make keen your blade, stand fast or die bereft of honor

    In the darkness be by fear consumed
    Hearts turn cold where naught ever blooms

    Elemental fury given to flesh
    Raw strength on a level mere mortals cannot contest
    The embodiment of earth─earth, wind, water, and fire

    Fears rise, blades fall
    His void calls

    Flames consume, tides subsume
    Cut down all who would dare hold you back, prove there's naught you lack
    Earth befouled, fierce winds howl
    Face hell now to prove your will unyielding
    You must walk this path alone, but know that you are not the first nor last to seek purgation

    Flames consume, tides subsume
    Cut down all who would dare hold you back, prove there's naught you lack
    Earth befouled, fierce winds howl
    Face hell now to prove your will unyielding
    You must walk this path alone, but know that you are not the first nor last to seek purgation

    In the darkness be by fear consumed
    Hearts turn cold where naught ever blooms
    Elemental fury given to flesh
    Raw strength on a level mere mortals cannot contest
    Steel your soul or ever burn─burn with boundless ire, forged in crimson fire
    This is an ass-kicking theme through and through; doesn't give us much in terms of facts or information, but a lot into general outlook. However, it should be noted that it's written by FFIV's game designer, so that insight is probably more into FFIV's Rubicante more than ours. Certainly there's not that feeling of remorse that I'd say is unique to XIV's.
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    Damn i was sure it was latin lyrics
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    And today we've got Dedicated to Moonlight lyrics, too!


    (Oh at fair moon's rise
    Into the night fly
    Follow the moonlight
    Fear not what you find)

    (O heart's desire
    Join now our choir
    For love conspire
    Go, chase it higher)

    Through the silent woods tonight,
    I am guided by moonlight,
    For the first time so alone fearing no shadow

    Like my mother before me I follow this path
    Knowing love will find me

    She will hear my song tonight
    (Tonight, full moon rise)
    Dedicated to moonlight
    (Clouds part, how she shines)
    See that I'm a woman grown enough for secrets
    (Dance as once did I. O daughter of mine)

    Like my grandmother before me I know each note every beat,
    (Go, oh, go, go)
    Melody mine to keep

    (Go, sing now unto the sky)
    (Girls are born to step into the light)

    O wide open midnight sky, please
    Carry my voice aloft
    Far away where she waits
    Lover's moon
    (Oh, Moon)

    Fairest goddess wandering the night
    In your name we bare our hearts
    (Songbirds of night)
    With your grace will our passion take flight
    (Passion take flight)

    We would keep your song alive
    Shrouded safe in soft moonlight
    (Silver and white forest moonlight)

    Maiden goddess of heavens above
    In your name we share our hearts
    (This world we share)
    With your grace will our prayer become
    (With you through prayer)

    Solace, shelter, hope and love
    Greater than the tales sing of
    (Oh, true love)
    Oh, love

    (Songbirds of night, passion take flight
    Silver and white forest moonlight
    This world we share with you through prayer
    Oh, love for you)
    So this is definitely a hymn of some kind to Menphina, same as In The Balance was to Nald'thal. In that context, the mention of a mother and grandmother might be a reference to our good ol' matriarchal society of the mooncats!

    Honestly the entire thing helps get a bead on Menphina worship in that regard, since we never got a look at that faith. It seems like she's treated as herself interchangeable with the moon, which makes sense, with its moving across the sky being treated like her wandering. It also seems to be a very familial faith, in keeping with both the mooncats and that whole 'goddess of love' thing
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    Last edited by Cleretic; 02-15-2023 at 09:28 PM.

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