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  1. #511
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuyuka3 View Post
    Intepreting Tomorrow and Tomorrow:
    Am I the only one feeling that this is the Ancients that want new generations/people to have a chance at live in the world speaking to those same people?
    The song really gets me emotional, since I feel that this carries so much hope as well as a promise for a better future than the one the Ancients left behind...
    And I feel it also carries a wish to those who mourn what was lost to one day find succor and happiness again.
    As well as what you mentioned, another story element it reminds me of is Vidofnir's part of the quest The Legacies We Leave at the end of Heavensward - particularly the reference to the fallen living on in song, and rising up once more.

    It was always a beautiful piece of writing to me, and I think the song captures the same feeling that I get from it.

    (The song is amazing, by the way - ever since I heard the instrumental version of it in the Crystarium that just evolves and blooms and finally the last verse is sung... it's absolutely beautiful.)

    VIDOFNIR
    Friend of Ysayle, warrior of warriors─thou art ever welcome in Anyx Trine. What bringeth thee to us this night?
    ...There is much wisdom to be gained from looking to the past. To walk half-remembered paths, and mark anew their twists and turns. We too do this, though not through pilgrimage, nor less the written word beloved of thy historians.
    In song do we preserve the deeds of our lost and chronicle the passing of the ages. Naught hath greater power to stir our hearts. 'Twas a dirge of profoundest sadness that roused Nidhogg's brood to action. A dirge which soundeth no more.
    Now a new song riseth to fill the void. One of hope rekindled, of war's end and peace's rebirth. I shall sing of thee and Ysayle ever after, that all may know and remember.
    We sing of Nidhogg, even now─not to praise him, but to speed his soul unto its rest, for even he is deserving of peace.
    ...In the chorus, the fallen could rise once more. For none are dead whose names yet echo in the heavens, and the song would not end until the last voice fell silent. Heroes and villains, sinners and saints─all would live again...
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    Last edited by Iscah; 07-08-2019 at 03:36 AM.

  2. #512
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    Finally got through the story this past weekend, so now I can finally re-visit the forums without fear of story spoilers! Anyway, I had some small changes to make to Tomorrow and Tomorrow, but you beat me to the punch on that, Iscah: all of your changes were edits that I was going to make. As for Titania's theme, I've managed to pull out a few phrases during the more hectic portion of the song, as well as make a few edits from Rocl's take on the theme, as well as the odd youtube and reddit comment I've come across.

    What Angel Wakes Me

    Dancing on the wind
    Up and down again
    Round and round the bend
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la~

    From a flowery bed
    To the cloud's ascent
    Tumble down again
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la~

    Yet with each descent
    You will rise again
    To our heart's content
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la~

    Fly away my friend
    For a day and then
    You'll begin again
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la~

    'Til taunting the skies vaunted quiet
    Wanton silence. [Before tea] we ride
    Wond'ring when we'll be...~

    Dancing on the wind
    Up and down again
    Round and round the bend
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la~

    From a flowery bed
    To the cloud's ascent
    Tumble down again
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la~

    Yet with each descent
    You will rise again
    To our heart's content
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la~

    Fly away my friend
    For a day and then
    You'll begin again
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la~

    Still taunting the sky's gentle sun,
    Gently wandering alone in the night,
    Joyous cries when you're free!~

    Run and run around
    [???]
    [???]
    [Fine flowers]

    Petals cast aloft
    Flower of our heart
    [???]
    Ring-a-ling~

    Ring-a-ling-a-ling~
    [Powers in this place]
    How I want to sing
    Some story

    Spirits of the Spring
    Ring-a-ling-a-ling~
    [???]
    Together we...

    Run and run around
    [Magic of our heart]
    [???]
    [???]

    Dance among the stars
    Fa-la-la-la-la~
    [Look into our hearts]
    [And ???]

    Ring-a-ling-a-ling~
    Feel the freedom ring
    [Scents among this place]
    [???]

    Feel the touch of Spring
    Ring-a-ling-a-ling~
    [???]
    Tomorrow we...

    Autumn's whisper soaring high
    Up among the lullaby
    Baby's breath and butterflies
    Singing our sweet lullaby
    Summer child with heavy eyes
    Fa-la-la-la-lullaby
    Come my lonely angel [???]
    Singing our sweet lullaby

    Dull, lonesome fate
    Luster lost in the rain
    Lost and silent
    'Til the Spring comes again.
    (3)

  3. #513
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    I've only been able to get through a few phrases in What Angel Wakes Me, and agree with most of what Mysteltain/Robin said, but had some slight changes to some of the lines. Bolded lines have been changed.

    Dancing on the wind
    Up and down again
    Round and round the bend
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la~

    From a flow'ry bed
    Do the clouds ascend
    Tumble down again
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la~

    Yet with each descent
    Do we rise again
    To our heart's content
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la...

    Fly away my friend
    For a day and then
    You'll begin again
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la~

    'Til taunting the skies vaunted quiet
    Wanton silence. [Before tea] we ride
    Wond'ring when we'll be...~

    Dancing on the wind
    Up and down again
    Round and round the bend
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la~

    From a flowery bed
    Do the clouds ascend
    Tumble down again
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la~

    Yet with each descent
    Do we rise again
    To our heart's content
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la...

    Fly away my friend
    For a day and then
    You'll begin again
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la~

    Still taunting the sky's gentle sun,
    Gently wandering alone in the night,
    Joyous cries ring free!

    Run and run around
    [???]
    [???]
    [Fine flowers]

    Petals cast aloft
    La la la la la
    [???]
    Remember me

    Ring-a-ling-a-ling~
    Flowers in the Spring
    How I want to sing
    Some story

    ??? we bring
    Ring-a-ling-a-ling~
    [???]
    Together we...

    Run and run around
    [Magic of our heart]
    [???]
    [???]

    Dance among the stars
    Fa-la-la-la-la~
    [Look into our hearts]
    [And ???]

    Ring-a-ling-a-ling~
    Feel the freedom ring
    [Scents among this place]
    [???]

    Feel the touch of Spring
    Ring-a-ling-a-ling~
    [???]
    [B] ??? tomorrow.

    Autumn's whisper soaring high
    Lulla, lulla, lullaby, (this is a reference to A Midsummer Night's Dream)
    Baby's breath and butterfly
    Sing in our sweet lullaby. (another Midsummer reference)
    Summer child with heavy eyes
    Lulla, lulla, lullaby,
    Come my lonely angel [???]
    Sing in our sweet lullaby.

    Dull, lonesome fate
    Luster lost in the rain
    Lost and silent
    'Til the Spring comes again.
    (2)
    Scoot Patoot (Gilgamesh) and Nanamo Ul-namo (Lich, Balmung, et al)

  4. #514
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    From a flowery bed
    Do the clouds ascend
    Tumble down again
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la~
    Possible this splits the difference between your suggestion and Mysteltain/Robin?

    Specifically, "To the clouds ascend" rather than "Do the clouds ascend."

    It seems to be talking about those in the song engaging in that act/behavior, suggesting they are traveling to the clouds before coming back down again.
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  5. #515
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    Has there been any efforts on the song from Rak'tika Greatwood yet? I'm about 70% certain she is singing in Quechua but I don't know enough about the language to pick words out to run through a dictionary. I'll play with it for a few days though.
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  6. #516
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    Crown and scepter lyrics


    What Angel Wakes Me?

    Dancing in the wind
    up and down again
    'round and 'round the bend
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la

    From a flowery bed
    'til the clouds ascend
    Tumble down again
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la

    Yet with each descent
    Do we rise again
    To our heart's content
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la

    Fly away my friend
    For a day and then
    You'll begin again
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la

    'til dawn had turned the skies
    Wanted quiet wanton silence
    Frivol do we lie
    wondering when we'll be...

    Dancing on the rain
    Up and down again
    'round and 'round the bend
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la

    From a flowery bed
    'til the clouds ascend
    Tumble down again
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la

    Yet with each descent
    Do we rise again
    To our heart's content
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la

    Fly away my friend
    For a day and then
    You'll begin again
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la

    Step down, turn the skies
    Gentle song gently wandering
    Along in the night
    Joyous cries ring free...

    La-la-la-la-la
    Now here comes my part
    Doing what we know
    Follow this

    Prayer thats cast along
    Fa-la-la-la-la-la
    Be my one and only
    Me-mo-ry

    Ring-a-ling-a-ling
    Problems in this place
    Hollow what it takes
    Trans-fer-ing

    Spirits that we break
    Ding-a-ling-a-ling
    Fading everything together we

    Fa-la-la-la-la
    Frantic is my heart
    Glowing in the dark
    Be-live it

    Cousin from the source [maybe stars instead of source?]
    Fa-la-la-la-la
    Lurking in this place
    Con-tin-ually

    Ding-a-ling-a-ling
    Fe-el free to bring
    Something from this place
    Lin-ger-ing
    feelings [workin' on this]
    Ring-a-ling-a-ling
    Fight for what we can
    Tomorrow

    Autumn's whisper soaring high
    la-la-la-la-lullaby
    Baby's breath and butter-flies
    Sing along... sweet lullaby

    Summer turned to heavy eyes
    la-la-la-la-lullaby
    Come my lonely angel
    My singin'... sweet lullaby

    Don't wait on fate
    [workin' on this] loss in the rain
    Lost 'til summer end
    'til the spring calls again...


    thoughts after reading others interpretations:

    -Sing in our sweet lullaby makes MUCH more sense.
    -I'm like... 1,000% sure they're talking about our WoL/WoD for the part where they sing fast rather than going on about spring or whatever
    -Uh... crazy that someone else picked up on the word wanton. That had me on loop for a few hours... But y'all missed that FRIVOL mixup.
    -Y'all sure about taunting the skies? Fits the first chunk, but not the second. But I listened to in on hecka slow-mo so...
    -There is a lot of lyric. I like the end verse interpretation that's here better than mine. I think that is absolutly correct and mine is wrong. (I kept hearing something that starts with a b, but LUSTER lost in the rain does it.)
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    Last edited by IceMateria; 07-28-2019 at 10:47 AM. Reason: spoiler tag! For real!

  7. #517
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    From those who've fallen, to those who'll rise
    A prayer to keep us ever by your side
    An undying promise that we just might
    Carry on in a song

    Pray don't forget us, your bygone kin
    With one world's end, does a new begin
    And should our souls scatter unto the wind
    Still we shall live on
    Considering that this part kicks in:

    As G'raha walks up to the group(if you have the scene advancing on auto, anyway), perhaps this bit also conveys the feelings of those from the future that he carries? The future that, if everything goes right, will never be seen. But they live on thru his memories and actions, thru the songs sung about future deeds that would not have happened otherwise.

    I mean, yeah it also applies to the ancients. But there's a marked change in melody when that part starts, so I think it might be indicating a second story threading in.
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    Last edited by Alleluia; 07-29-2019 at 11:26 PM.

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    Official Titania Lyrics via: https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/pr/blog/002817.html

    Dancing on the wind up and down again
    Round and round the bend
    Fa la la la la la
    From a flow'ry bed to the clouds ascend
    Tumble down again
    Fa la la la la la
    Yet with each descent do we rise again
    To our hearts' content
    Fa la la la la la
    Fly away my friend for a day and then
    We'll begin again
    Fa la la la la la

    Till down turn the skies
    Wonted quiet, wanton silence
    For long do we lie
    Wond'ring when we'll be

    Dancing on the wind up and down again
    Round and round the bend
    Fa la la la la la
    From a flow'ry bed to the clouds ascend
    Tumble down again
    Fa la la la la la

    Yet with each descent do we rise again
    To our hearts' content
    Fa la la la la la
    Fly away my friend for a day and then
    We'll begin again
    Fa la la la la la

    Still down turn the skies
    Gentle song gently wand'ring
    Along in the night
    Joyous cries ring free

    La la la la la
    Lying lost in thought
    Do you love me not?
    Follow these
    Petals cast aloft
    La la la la la
    Will you, when I'm gone, remember me?

    Ring a ling a ling
    Lovers in the spring
    How the garden sings
    Ever green
    Spirits lush, we bring
    Ring a ling a ling
    Braving anything
    Together, we

    La la la la la
    Learn to play our part
    Navigate the dark
    Up we reach
    Catch a falling star
    La la la la la
    Lock it in our hearts eternally

    Ring a ling a ling
    Flying without wings
    Kites without a string
    Loop and leap
    To these crowns we cling
    Ring a ling a ling
    For we'll all be kings tomorrow

    Autumn's whisper soaring high
    Lulla lulla lullaby
    Baby's breath and butterflies
    Sing in our sweet lullaby
    Summer child with heavy eyes
    Lulla lulla lullaby
    Come our lonely angel nigh
    Sing in our sweet lullaby

    Time wilts and fades
    Luster lost in the rain
    Bows to the blade
    Till the spring calls again
    (5)

  9. #519
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    I literally was just going to come here to post what I heard for this verse, which was:
    Til dark turned the sky, wanted quiet, wonton silence.
    For long do we lie
    Wondering when we'll be~

    I was so close. In fact, many people were very close with all of the lyrics!
    Glad the official lyrics are finally out. They're lovely.
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    Last edited by Mikki; 08-02-2019 at 02:00 PM.


    「Life is such a fragile thing…」

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    So I was listening to an awesome cover/remix of Shadowbringers (found here if anyone wants to hear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uiMjBEZ4YA) and it prompted me to examine some of the lyrics more closely.

    Specifically this set of lyrics:
    One brings shadow, one brings light
    Two-toned echoes tumbling through time
    Three score wasted, ten cast aside
    Four-fold knowing, no end in sight
    And I have a few thoughts. First, I admire that Soken was able to work in "1, 2, 3, 4" like that. I just think its cool.

    Secondly, I was curious about what the lyrics mean, so I looked some stuff up and got an interesting tidbit, I think.

    I think the "four-fold knowing" refers to an idea exemplified in this paper I found: https://www.researchgate.net/publica...way_of_knowing Long story short, it seems to refer to a way of looking at how social scientists apply the scientific method. To quote from the paper "it is an attempt to explicate and to understand those features of scientific method which are an exemplification of the personalities (styles of inquiry) and social environments of social scientists."

    It comes with this figure to demonstrate the idea:


    Given how we know Amaurot was structured, with a heavy emphasis on knowledge and magic-science, I think the above idea is what the "four-fold knowing" lyric is referring to. And I am finding taking that figure's information and trying to apply it to what we know about the Ancients as a whole, and the ones we've gotten to know in particular, just really interesting. (Amaurotine!WoL = Global Humanist, methinks. lol)



    Also, the line "three score wasted, ten cast aside" seems to be a reference to the biblical quote of a man's lifespan being three-score and ten (70) years long. (One of many sources here: https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/...e-and-ten.html)

    So on one hand, the line could be taken as saying a lifetime (or many) is being wasted and cast aside; I'd say an ascian's (presumably Emet-Selch's) given the context of the rest of the song.

    But it did strike me that it says ten are cast aside. You know, as opposed to all 3-score and ten being "wasted"? And then it occured to me that we know that three members of the Convocate survived un-sundered, while the other ten were broken apart, and I'm now wondering if maybe this choice in wording is referencing that. One could call Lahabrea, Elidibus, and Emet-Selch's lives wasted in the pursuit of the dark goal that is the Rejoining. If none of the ascians had survived intact we wouldn't be dealing with any of this, after all. No one would remember that there was a dark god they needed to restore if that was the case. Perhaps this lyric phrasing is implying that three were spared sundering so they could be used, at the expense of the sundering of the other ten? Like, Zodiark could only keep three intact and he chose them, and thus their burden began and their lives were destined to be wasted away to it?
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    Last edited by Alleluia; 08-06-2019 at 12:51 PM. Reason: grammar. ugh.

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