Song Lyrics in FFXIV: Compilation, Discussion, and Interpretation

[MiniPrinny]

Really, it may be coincidence, but the Eikons both have the same message of "you're life will be better if you choose to follow me," verses the fear, anguish, and raw bloodlust of the others.

Rise, for the bits of it I can make out, shares a similar theme: That of Alexander telling us that this has all been a trial of our skills and that he wishes to have us "rise with him," implying that he wanted to make us stronger and wiser.

[Annana]

Rise, for the bits of it I can make out, shares a similar theme: That of Alexander telling us that this has all been a trial of our skills and that he wishes to have us "rise with him," implying that he wanted to make us stronger and wiser.

Which makes sense, considering that Alexander is a benevolent Primal. After calculating all possible futures and pasts, he decided that the best hope for a perfect future would be his own defeat. Alexander Judges us Worthy to bear the burden of the making a better future.

[FenHin]

Want to try to add something to Equilibrium. Last verse : Into empty heart, the light will seek ??

[Fevelle]

Want to try to add something to Equilibrium. Last verse : Into empty heart, the light will seek ??

Yes!! I came here to say that, but I thought about

"Into empty heart the light will seep"

Also wants to add about "Not once a certainty" - I think it's "Balance uncertainty"

[Cherub]

Yes!! I came here to say that, but I thought about

"Into empty heart the light will seep"

Also wants to add about "Not once a certainty" - I think it's "Balance uncertainty"

I'm hearing "Now once a certainty, lost in grief" which would also make sense in it's context.

[Rocl]

Why is this Goblin rap so difficult?

Rise v2.21:

SONIC BOOM!

It's time...
This ain't no metal...
...supercraft....
Go down (DOWN!) ...
...grandkids (SO?)
....
Pray to the metal, and the metal awakes!

(YO! WHAT!?)

Keep up the pace,
Kill em with quickness (WHAT!?)
Give em the bombs bombs bombs and the business

Keep up the pace,
Kill em with quickness (WHAT!?)
Give em the bombs bombs bombs and the business

Movin' zoomin' throughout time we're groovin'
...possibilities

Two phases two phases
Too <somethings> (TOO SLOW!)

Keep up the pace, (WHAT!?)
Kill em with quickness
Give em the bombs bombs bombs and the business!

Keep up the pace, (WHAT!?)
Kill em with quickness
Give em the bombs bombs bombs and the business

<some stuff>
<boom onomatopeias>
...back down again

A TO THE L TO THE E-X ANDER
GOBLINS GONNA RISE UP [unintelligible]-LANDER x 8

Rise up and wakey eye people
Now rise up and rise <words>
Now rise up and <put pedal to the?> metal

RISE WITH ME RISE WITH ME RISE WITH ME (RISE UP)
RISE WITH ME RISE WITH ME RISE WITH ME (RISE UP)
RISE WITH ME RISE WITH ME RISE WITH ME (RISE UP)
RISE WITH ME
Step back the boom's about to put you in a....

[SONIC BOOM-repeat etc]

the shouting goblin sounds like a confused elderly man so that's what he is in my head now. "Quickness" might as well be "Quickthinx" too; 'kill 'em for Quickthinx!' is another possibility imo

[MajikNET]

Back to Sophia...

Was the daughter the first person to summon Sophia during the Allagan invasion, and she somehow became a part of the primal afterwards?

Just thinking on this topic...

My current headcanon is that this has nothing to do with Allag. Reading back through the Patch Preview, it seems to suggest that Sophia already existed and was well established when Allag came to call. In fact, the entire civilisation that Allag encountered may very well be a result of Sophia's existence and influence, her "equilibrium" keeping the peace for an unknown amount of time already.

So, I think I'd heavily agree that the lyrics here are actually recalling the original summoning of the Eikon, likely during a time of internal struggle and maybe even civil war within the Meracydian nation. Albeit from the Goddess' perspective, I assume.

What's bothering me at the moment is the second part of the verse...

Her memory, fading fast,
Her mother sits, eyes downcast.
An eminent form in hand,
Farewells unsaid...

Looking at the Sophia we encounter, she does have an "eminent form in hand", namely that ball, which I'm going to assume is "Cintamani" (I'm justifying this based on the assumption that we're chanting, or "praying", to it during the course of the song - it's important). This makes me think that the Mother is actually someone important; She has possession of this ball, or I'm going to say crystal (we'll come back to this), which has some level of notoriety or importance. She may even have been killed because of it?

The third part then gives us some more detail of what happened next...

Now once a certainty, lost in grief.
A daughter's desperate cries, unheard pleas.
Forsaken ancient rite, on her knees.
A prayer passes from her lips,
Into her soul the Goddess whispers:

The Daughter is distraught, she's either witnessed or found her dead/dying Mother and is weeping on her knees. And in that desperate moment, she prays for her Mother to be returned to her. Her prayers are answered... (and she's enthralled in the process)

Here's the darkfoil hat part:

Why is there something of certainty about the Mother that's suddenly been lost? Why is she so important and why does she have Cintamani? My current guess, would be that Cintamani is a Crystal of Light. We've seen them before; Matoya has a very nice, spherical, one sat at home. And we know that they are extremely powerful... So powerful, in-fact, that they can out-perform our cheap-as Crystals of Light today, given that Hydaelyn had a lot more power back then (Inflation; go figure).

If that's the case, then was the Mother actually a Warrior of Light? A champion of her people who saved their realm from untold evils? And, in this multi-cultural Meracydian nation, did some have an axe to grind with their WoL? Did, perhaps, some of them fear or loathe her for her power? Enough to try and get rid of her?

We know from Unukalhai that WoL in other worlds have become god-like through their power and constant "winning", and depending on which side of that equation you fell on, there would conceivably be groups of people who wouldn't be appreciative of the effort and would see them as a menace.

There's also another comment in the 3.4 story, that one goal of the current Ascian antagonism aim to achieve something important: "when the beast tribes exhaust their belief in their primitive gods (primals), who will they look towards to save them?". 3.0 showed us a first glimpse of the Archbishop, on his last legs, questioning who we were and what we were becoming?

This brings me to a scary conclusion; Sophia is a fallen Warrior of Light. In fact, this could possibly explain Sephirot as well, as a Champion of his tree-like race. They are both Eikons, and through the prayers of their "followers" (for want of a better term) their Crystals of Light have reacted in the same way that any other crystals would given enough thought and prayer... they've summoned and empowered an idealistic, Eikonic version of their respective Warrior of Light, deiforming the real entity in the process. That's why Eikon's don't represent elements, they are the idealistic form of an actual Warrior of Light, blessed by the elements of the Crystals of Light that the Warrior obtained.

So the bigger question is; what happens to us if we keep winning???

[Cherub]

As far as I understood the daughter is the dying one and the mother is the one who ultimately summons Sophia?
I really like the idea with the mother/daughter being in posession of Cintamani before Sophia came to be.

Also as far as I understood the line "Now once a certainty, lost in grief" means something like she took the life of the other one for granted, something that's always there, someone who is always with you. It was just so normal to be with that other person. But now that the other is dying, that certainty is lost in grief.
In other words, the certainty would refer to the dying persons life. All that remains is anothers grief.

Also kudos to anyone who tries to decipher Rise. I can't even understand a word lmao.

[Greven]

Hello everyone, I was listening to Equilibrium trying to get something of it and then remembered to look for this awesome thread!

I read the lyrics you wrote and wow, very good job. Only one thing I propose is the choir. I can't hear them saying chain nor chase while I think it fits for them to repeat "cintamani". Tell me if anyone can hear it or I just went down the wrong direction XD

[MercuryD]

Now, with all we know about Alexander. Just listen to Locus again and tell me it wasn't hidden in broad daylight. Again.