Updated the first post with the correct Fiend lyrics. I'll update it again with the Final Steps of Faith lyrics later (they're basically the Dragon portion of Heavensward, although I don't know if the chanting means anything).
Just saw this pop up, is there a side topic about lore speculation, and lyric dissection? Got kinda excited but then saw most of the posts were about trying to figure out the lyrics to songs that hadn't had lyrics released yet/
Oh, we've also had lore dissections, but those require we know the lyrics, haha. If there's anything you want to bring up, though, please feel free.
It would be very useful to integrate this list with the rolls such as the ones in https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._roll_sources/This topic will, hopefully, serve as a compilation detailing the lyrics of every song with vocals present in the game. For songs with vocals which have had its lyrics released by SE via either soundtracks or Developer Blogs, they will simply be copied and pasted here...
I personally have the goal to get the rolls which have letter/voice cover before anything else.
Fun fact, when I first saw Sephirot, I thought it was a primal based on Safer Sephiroth, and my friend's and I had VASTLY different interpretations of the lyrics to "Fiend." I was thinking it was referencing the reunion plot point in FFVII (I'm not caught up on the story and wasn't actively playing at his reveal. >.>)...
I can't totally unhear it now... But further dissection has it sound more like immense foreshadowing to something going south with the WoL's and Scion's blindly following Hydaelyn when we now see the Warriors of Darkness actively working with the Ascians and Minfillia's current status.
I wonder, though - it's really more the Susan Calloway songs (Answers, Dragonsong) that drop hints at plot direction and revelation. The Primal songs tend to be about the Primal themselves, reflecting their characteristics/personality and background - see Ravana's Unbending Steel (which is entirely about his own lust for combat), and Shiva's Oblivion (which references Ysayle's past). Following that logic, and especially considering that Sephirot himself is something of a "lost god" from an era thousands of years in the past who isn't even directly integrated into the main plot, I'm not sure we can look to the lyrics of The Fiend for foreshadowing; rather, it's more useful to get an idea of the sort of deity Sephirot was.I can't totally unhear it now... But further dissection has it sound more like immense foreshadowing to something going south with the WoL's and Scion's blindly following Hydaelyn when we now see the Warriors of Darkness actively working with the Ascians and Minfillia's current status.
That's not to say the two are mutually exclusive, and some of the lyrics could turn out to contain hints at Hydaelyn's nature or something, but it'd be a bit outside the pattern established thus far.
While I do agree that the main themes (Answers and Dragonsong) tend to provide a lot of lore on the story and the characters therein, Sephirot's theme seems a bit different from the likes of Unbending Steel or Oblivion. His has an intense theme of the character being betrayed (by their leaders, what they feel to be necessary, and even the world) and how descending into depravity and accepting him (Sephirot) will take all of the pain away. While I still hesitate to say that Hydaelyn is referenced in the line "Necessity is an inventive mother," which is a turn of a common phrase, there is definitely something with this song.
Remember, though, that Sephirot was summoned when the Allagans renewed their campaign against Meracydia in earnest. I imagine things weren't exactly great for its inhabitants at the time, and they were probably getting increasingly desperate as their attackers' newly-resurrected nihilistic leader tore his way through their homeland. It's (probably) in that context that we're meant to read it, and it fits your interpretation just as well (if not even better than) current events while sticking to the pattern established thus far.His has an intense theme of the character being betrayed (by their leaders, what they feel to be necessary, and even the world) and how descending into depravity and accepting him (Sephirot) will take all of the pain away. While I still hesitate to say that Hydaelyn is referenced in the line "Necessity is an inventive mother," which is a turn of a common phrase, there is definitely something with this song.
Last edited by Hinoto-no-Ryuji; 07-16-2016 at 12:43 PM.
I never thought to consider it from the Allagan/Meracydian point of view, but it definitely does seem to make more sense that way. And, if memory serves, either Unukalhai or the book near him describe how utterly outmatched the Allagans were by Sephirot's full power. If that was indeed the case then yeah, this song does match the others quite well.Remember, though, that Sephirot was summoned when the Allagans renewed their campaign against Meracydia in earnest. I imagine things weren't exactly great for its inhabitants at the time, and they were probably getting increasingly desperate as their attackers' newly-resurrected nihilistic leader tore his way through their homeland. It's (probably) in that context that we're meant to read it, and it fits your interpretation just as well (if not even better than) current events while sticking to the pattern established thus far.
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