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    As far as I understood the daughter is the dying one and the mother is the one who ultimately summons Sophia?
    I really like the idea with the mother/daughter being in posession of Cintamani before Sophia came to be.

    Also as far as I understood the line "Now once a certainty, lost in grief" means something like she took the life of the other one for granted, something that's always there, someone who is always with you. It was just so normal to be with that other person. But now that the other is dying, that certainty is lost in grief.
    In other words, the certainty would refer to the dying persons life. All that remains is anothers grief.

    Also kudos to anyone who tries to decipher Rise. I can't even understand a word lmao.
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    Hello everyone, I was listening to Equilibrium trying to get something of it and then remembered to look for this awesome thread!

    I read the lyrics you wrote and wow, very good job. Only one thing I propose is the choir. I can't hear them saying chain nor chase while I think it fits for them to repeat "cintamani". Tell me if anyone can hear it or I just went down the wrong direction XD
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    Now, with all we know about Alexander. Just listen to Locus again and tell me it wasn't hidden in broad daylight. Again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernehalwes View Post
    While translation is a large part of our job, what is not known by many is that the EN localization team plays a large role in the creation of a lot of in-game terminology and lore which is then localized back into Japanese (with liberties often taken by the Japanese team so that the text might appear more appealing to their target Japanese audience).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greven View Post
    Hello everyone, I was listening to Equilibrium trying to get something of it and then remembered to look for this awesome thread!

    I read the lyrics you wrote and wow, very good job. Only one thing I propose is the choir. I can't hear them saying chain nor chase while I think it fits for them to repeat "cintamani". Tell me if anyone can hear it or I just went down the wrong direction XD
    That was my original thought, as well (and what prompted me to delve more into the historical info behind a lot of the names in her fight). However, perhaps it's just my ears being unable to unhear what I think the choir is saying, but I only hear "Chains of harmony," try as I might to hear "Cintamani."

    EDIT: I think my best evidence comes from the third and fourth repeat if that line at the very beginning of Equilibrium. I hear a definite "s" (although it could be overlapping "t"s). What's rather unfortunate is that both "Cintamani" and "Chains of Harmony" make sense in the lyrics.

    That said, at least this is easier than Rise, haha! I honestly dunno how you got so much of it down, Rocl, it's pretty impressive.

    Quote Originally Posted by MercuryD View Post
    Now, with all we know about Alexander. Just listen to Locus again and tell me it wasn't hidden in broad daylight. Again.
    If only we could go forward and back to let ourselves know
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    Last edited by Mysteltain; 10-04-2016 at 09:15 AM.

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    A bit of rough googling seems to suggest that "Cintamani" has a common pronunciation of "chin-tah-mah-nee", distinguished by the four syllables. I feel like "Chains of Harmony" thematically fits, but "Harmony" has too many syllables itself, which would squeeze the last beat such that we'd hear an awkward "chains-of-har-mohnee". Personally, I don't hear the awkwardness of the "mohnee", which leads me to rule-out the word "harmony".

    SE needs to hurry up and release the Soundtrack already!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajikNET View Post
    Personally, I don't hear the awkwardness of the "mohnee", which leads me to rule-out the word "harmony".
    Looking forward to seeing the official lyrics on this one, as when I listen to it I do hear that quick double syllable for the "mony" part of harmony.

    I also don't here a t sound for the "tah" and the first part doesn't sound like the i would if it were pronounced chin, instead sounding like the ai of chains.
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    In Thailand
    "Jindamanee" is the name of the first textbook in Thailand's history. other meaning of Jindamanee is mean "The orb that you can tell your wish and it will come true".
    - Sophia's weapon is an orb.
    - Thai people believe education is the best treasure for your life. then Jindamanee is name for the 1st textbook in Thailand.

    I think Cintamani is relate to Thai Jindamanee. Her orb is the magic orb that she name it cause she believe it will make her wish come true.

    ps. the loot of this word is from Bali-Sanskrit language. A lot of Thai's words borrow from Bali-Sanskrit.

    sorry for my English skill
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    Something occurred to me while listening to Rise and I'm gonna feel dumb if this was that obvious, but anyone notice the song acts as a constant loop in and of itself? The song starts with the "SONIC BOOM" and the end sounds really close to something like "Step back I'm about to hit you with a-". That sudden pause then proceeds the stall with the instrumental bit, then builds back up to the "SONIC BOOM", much like how the fight is its own loop of events.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lewtskie View Post
    Something occurred to me while listening to Rise and I'm gonna feel dumb if this was that obvious, but anyone notice the song acts as a constant loop in and of itself? The song starts with the "SONIC BOOM" and the end sounds really close to something like "Step back I'm about to hit you with a-". That sudden pause then proceeds the stall with the instrumental bit, then builds back up to the "SONIC BOOM", much like how the fight is its own loop of events.
    aye, that's how I interpreted the whole thing too
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