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  1. #31
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    Zencurse's Avatar
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    James Cairn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Licus View Post
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    I would also add that making a aetherial manipulation macro to one of your healers/other ranged for T8 is especially effective for taking tower hits or moving for missile
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  2. #32
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    Mister Wonderful
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zencurse View Post
    I am also suspicious of this. If I had to guess, he's probably getting this from his first 20ish seconds of burst from using Raging Strikes/Flare->Convert combo and not letting it settle.
    That is how it works mostly, although I'm making a video right now to try to help prove it, its hard to avoid procs lol. Even ignoring the flare convert at the start I can do 310 average, just by watching my ticks and casting the right spells.
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  3. #33
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    Aleksandr Deicide
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    BLM is a bit weird when it comes to parsing because we can go FOREVER.
    Unlike other classes which are limited by TP or MP, and can only go all out for 2-3, maybe 4 for DRG, minutes.
    But at the same time, we are the most proc dependent, so you could have a LOT of procs in the first minute, and then a lot less for the next 4 minutes.
    This is why I always try to do a 5, or even 6 minute parse on my BLM, for 2 complete rounds of Raging and Convert.
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  4. #34
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    Zencurse's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister-Wonderful View Post
    That is how it works mostly, although I'm making a video right now to try to help prove it, its hard to avoid procs lol. Even ignoring the flare convert at the start I can do 310 average, just by watching my ticks and casting the right spells.
    That doesn't give accurate numbers though. Parse for 5 minutes while doing that and see how low it goes.
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  5. #35
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    Shadowzanon's Avatar
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    Aether Flow
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zencurse View Post
    That doesn't give accurate numbers though. Parse for 5 minutes while doing that and see how low it goes.
    I can see your numbers more realisticly achievable 340 to 370 I did manage to get to 320 this week with just the weathered wep. I do have a few tasks, triggering the 1st landmine tower, then triggering the 1st and 3rd defensive tower to the right provided i do not have allagan field. with manaward i take 2 hits off the towers freeing someone else from taking a hit from it and it gives us alot of room for managing other things. i only trigger landmines if and only if the designated person has allagan field so yes i do not move much. But whole fight numbers is what i wanted to hear, not people boasting numbers of a partial fight.
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  6. #36
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    James Cairn
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    Yea I was trying to discern what was going on with Mister's dps since doing over 300 without using your procs in ilvl 91 seems extremely unrealistic unbuffed. As for T8 actual, today was the reset and after now being ilvl 102 I did exactly 370 with about average proc luck, and 30 secs of foes req (start of fight). In case you're still curious. Again if your in suped up gear with more foes req than myself I can see 400 being reached. Otherwise for T8 aim for 320ish till you have 110 wep.
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  7. #37
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    Peanut Little
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Parsers are always an issue. NEVER compare your dps with that of someone who post theirs on the Internet, you can only truly compare if you parse the both of you in the exact same fight.

    At best, you can see how they compare with others in their party. If everyone is higher than you're used to seeing, then its definitely a parser issue. And no, no amount of "little things you can do" will make that much of a difference in dps assuming you have a good idea of how to play the job to begin with.

    That being said, given the mechanics of the fight, 350 is not impossible. Try to capitalize on the dread phases.

    I absolutely refuse to believe people are getting 400 dps on target dummy single target though, even with pots and party buff. You might be able to get a burst that goes up that high at the beginning but as for sustained dps, nope.
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    Last edited by PenutButter; 05-07-2014 at 05:16 PM.

  8. #38
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    Zero Amano
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    Quote Originally Posted by PenutButter View Post
    I absolutely refuse to believe people are getting 400 dps on target dummy single target though, even with pots and party buff. You might be able to get a burst that goes up that high at the beginning but as for sustained dps, nope.
    A ilv100 Monk with Animus will say no to you. Because my FC mate did 400 on dummy without ANY BUFF.
    Blm? maybe need full ilv110 to be able to have 400 dps on dummy without ANY BUFF.
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  9. #39
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    Rui Ooshima
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    Tonberry
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PenutButter View Post
    I absolutely refuse to believe people are getting 400 dps on target dummy single target though, even with pots and party buff. You might be able to get a burst that goes up that high at the beginning but as for sustained dps, nope.
    A lot of i100 weap monks out there are dealing 400 or close to 400 on ACT. Those super geared mnks with i110 weap and avg ilvl over 100 can even hit 440.
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    Aikaal Leyma
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    Summoner Lv 90
    This is just me. I think T8 is a terrible way to see if a BLM is good. T8 is basically a dummy fight. The only thing it proves is if you pull 350-380 DPS with iLevel around 96-98, you know your rotation. I've seen Monks doing 440+ constant DPS because it's a dummy fight...

    What will you do to keep your numbers high on T9 which require a lot of movements? That fight, like Titan EX is those kind of fights you can brag for having high numbers.

    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroAmano View Post
    Yeah.
    Puro Strider's Info is truth. "Skill=Luck">WD>INT>DET>Crit=SS. Do not follow the PERFECT WORLD SETTING.
    Keep dreaming good Sir
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