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  1. #21
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    Orophin's Avatar
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    My damage spikes pretty high due to Foe being up at the beginning of the fight and not having to do a whole lot, but after Foe is down and I'm handling mechanics (every other tower and mines) it starts to dip a bit. Also having to move out during Ballistic Missile reduces damage a bit.

    There's a lot of variables at work, but if you could sit still and only have to dodge Ballistic Missiles and later on moving out for Allagan Field (if applicable) I could see you putting out a decent amount of damage. I still don't think you're going to beat out a MNK though. Also, if you're having to deal with towers/mines use Aetherial Manipulation to get back into place quickly. I have a macro to AM to a focus target. (don't really need to have Avatar focused in my experience)

    As you become more comfortable with the fight you'll pick up on little tricks that can increase your damage. (like holding a proc if you know you're going to be running into a tower within a few seconds, using AM, etc.) Well, that and getting gear upgrades. I'm only sitting at i94 on my BLM so I'm still going to get destroyed by equivalent or better geared of every other DPS job.
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    Last edited by Orophin; 05-06-2014 at 08:21 AM.

  2. #22
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    Umero's Avatar
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    Mero Mero
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Orophin View Post
    As you become more comfortable with the fight you'll pick up on little tricks that can increase your damage. (like holding a proc if you know you're going to be running into a tower within a few seconds, using AM, etc.) Well, that and getting gear upgrades. I'm only sitting at i94 on my BLM so I'm still going to get destroyed by equivalent or better geared of every other DPS job.
    Agreed. It's like cutting as many corners as possible while riding a jet coaster, drifting.
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  3. #23
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    Mister-Wonderful's Avatar
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    Mister Wonderful
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    I can average 310-330 on a dummy at i91, without procs. Add some procs and especially lucky ones, like thundercloud when I need to re app thunder, and I can easily push 350-400 on a regular basis.

    There are a lot of simple things you can do in BLM rotation that aren't the "Norm" like if I do blizz 3 and got a firestarter right before, I will do thunder 1, scathe, then during GCD I transpose into 1 stack fire, and do firestarter with no delay, doubling that firestarters damage, as I'm now in astral not umbral. I would blizz 1 instead of scathe for that, but I want the GCD counting while I transpose to waste no time.

    Seem like minor things, but they add up.
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  4. #24
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    Xisin Fendada
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    Sargatanas
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowzanon View Post
    My big issue with ya is well you are boasting something that is untrue. Ill explain where im comming from. When i check my numbers its the full extent of the fight, nothing more , nothing less. It irks me to see someone boast they can do x ammount of dps on a turn but within it they are admitting to only a fraction of said fight but tote out they can pop x amount of dps on that fight. The issue here is that is not you're true ammount of dps of that fight i know is less but not drasticly so. The problem comes when people skim this and then come out n say well there are blm who pull out x amount of numbers in this fight and you are nowhere close to that. This is something i have to deal with not cuz of your post n numbers but due to how many people just boast the most dps they managed to do that was only a fraction of the fight and not its entirety. Id like to know, with your gear, what you really pop on that entire fight, an avarage, that helps motivate one to push foward if they see they are not so far behind. If my runs would go from 280 dps to 320 due to rng n stuff ill avarage out at 300, its a more realistic number in my case instead of me claiming my highest. its the purpose of this thread.
    I'm not sure where your coming from other than "If I can't hit those numbers then its untrue... " the parses I've reported have been full fights and honestly I've managed those numbers on more than 3-4 occasions it's not a rarity and they are most certainly not anomalies. Should I post my lows? Not sure what you want. If you wish you can come on my server and I can show you... my info is easily accessible. If you wish to stick your head in the sand and ignore the numbers then that is your choice.
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    Last edited by Xisin; 05-06-2014 at 10:51 AM.

  5. #25
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Tiny optimizations
    -Spamming your Fire3 key on your last fire of the rotation (Assuming you aim for the 'blizz3 at 400-450 mark) will cast your Firestarter as soon as it procs, if it does. Otherwise, do Blizz as normal.
    -If you finish casting your Thunder X and you -just- get the MP tick, you have enough time to cast Blizz1 or Scathe and then Fire 3.
    -If you're lazy like me, make a Thunder macro; With your "I have mp" thunder cast first, and your "I don't have MP" thunder 1 second. What this does is cast your preferred Thunder if you have the MP, and the cheap one when you don't. Assuming you don't fall under 250something MP after Blizz 3, you'll always have a thunder rolling and get back into Fire as soon as possible.
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  6. #26
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    Starkbeaumont's Avatar
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    Raegen Beaumont
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    Spriggan
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mister-Wonderful View Post
    I can average 310-330 on a dummy at i91, without procs.
    I'm quite curious with which gear you achieve this
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  7. #27
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    StubHub's Avatar
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    Stub Envy
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    Balmung
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    Weaver Lv 34
    Quote Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont View Post
    I'm quite curious with which gear you achieve this
    I would like to see this as well. I don't believe it, and think this pretty much falls into what the OP is talking about. But hey, i'd be delighted to be proven wrong if it showed i wasn't doing something right.
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  8. #28
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    James Cairn
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Starkbeaumont View Post
    I'm quite curious with which gear you achieve this
    I am also suspicious of this. If I had to guess, he's probably getting this from his first 20ish seconds of burst from using Raging Strikes/Flare->Convert combo and not letting it settle.
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  9. #29
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    Kenji1134's Avatar
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    Aleksandr Deicide
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70
    Yeah... at I93 w/ the T5 weapon, I end up around 295-300 after 5 minutes on the dummy, alone, without using Raging, pots, or adding in a swift-flare-convert-fire set...
    So a consistent 310-330 on the dummy in I91 seems pretty high.
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  10. #30
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    Lucius Eventide
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    Cactuar
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I definitely pull between 350-380 sustained dps on turn 8. The key to this is nuances within the fight.

    Currently, I am a crit build with an average ilvl or 98 with an animus weapon just to give you perspective of what a more geared or less geared blm might do.

    My advice would be to utilize your CDs with dreads and foes requiem. If you start the fight with raging strikes it should synch up off of CD with every dreadnaught that spawns. Anytime foes requiem is up, try to utilize an x-pot of int. to do major damage. Try to squeeze in flare when dreadnaughts are up, don't flare if it will cost you more downtime than you can afford. SAVE CONVERT FOR DOUBLE FLARE ON DREADS WHEN RAGING STRIKES OR X-POT IS UP!!! This is a substantial dps boost! My dps spikes well above 400 during those parts of the fight. Saving the convert for those parts of the fight allow for your to extend the duration of astral fire while buffed as well as get off a second flare with little sacrifice to dps. Also, try to bank a fire starter proc for when you double flare so you don't have to wait on the very slow hard cast of fire three when exiting the umbral ice part of the rotation.

    Only use scathe if you are going to be moving more than one second. The 2.3 ish second GCD is not worth scathe damage if your just going to quickly side step. Scathe is great if you have to move to a tower or move to blow up a mine.

    Lastly, if you know there is a part where you are going to have to move in 1-2 seconds, try to always finish your cast and then move. Never move mid cast unless you absolutely have to.
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    Last edited by Licus; 05-07-2014 at 08:53 AM.

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