Quote Originally Posted by Vesuvias View Post
you missed my point. in talking specifically about atma. atma is like getting your zenith for your weapon, hell they have the same stats. now if atma was a real stat increas then ok i would be more understanding. but it isnt all you get is a higher ilvl. in addition to being able to do the books.

As for atma not having any progress im talking time wise, im like you ive been doing it since release, but have burned out 3 times now doing it. But i still dont have my atma weapon, but to give you an example of why i have so much issue with this grind is that ok a friend of mine he had animus in the first weak of release and had enough time to grind out a second atma weapon in that time period. not because this is a test of skill or dedication but because he got stupidly lucky and was able to grind it out his first atma in the first 8 hours of patch release.
I got your point. Atma, however, is only necessary to begin the Animus questline. But as I said before, the weapons themselves aren't even necessary to have; people have been clearing things without the use of atma/animus, so why is "I NEED IT" really necessary?

Yes, it's sheer dumb luck that you friend was able to do that. But the point is he still went through the necessary steps to do so. As I pointed out before, I'm sure he wasn't just sitting around more donuts, shootin the shit, and then suddenly 12 atma just appeared in his inventory. I'm not excusing the RNG factor, because for as much as people complain it does seem like "bullshit." What I'm getting at is people just giving up entirely because it's "too hard." Everything has its own degree of difficulty (looking at you Titan EX ¬_¬ ). But if relic weapons are eventually supposed to be the best in the game, why should it be easy to get them? That's like going to Yale and actually putting in the time and effort to graduate versus someone "buying" their Yale diploma online.

People are just getting jealous of others who have, turning this into a whole haves/have nots issue. Why worry about what someone else has? Why not just be proud of what you have and what you've achieved for yourself?