The Atma Stigma

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

You think "Wow, he got through the Atma -and- the Myth grind. [Insert subsequent thought here]" (For me, that tends to be "Lucky sod.")

It's just too bad your whole post was ruined by this one statement. Why worry about what everyone else has? Why not just be happy with what YOU have?

As far as any skills are concerned, I've actually had to think on how to manage my HP/TP properly with low-level FATEs. Not having access to the full spectrum of abilities one has at level 50 has given me insight to how to do that.

Think of it this way. You are given a pistol, put into a pitch black shooting range. A target is placed somewhere at the far end, and you have to hit it 12 times. You take a shot. There's a chance you might hit it, but odds are you aren't. Now, every time you miss, the target is moved. You don't know where you shot at, or where it is now. This is what grinding for the Atmas is like. Yes, some people will get lucky and finish it quickly, but most won't. Something as simple as a progress bar would have made this a lot easier to deal with because without a clear cut goal, you're just shooting in the dark.

Again, how is it "without a clear cut goal?" You wouldn't keep going for the same atma over and over when you already got one from the area you're in (provided you're only going FOR 1) would you?

[Chihaya]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coRtxAZh6V4

I think it's pretty good tips and opinion and I agree with it. I can stand the atma RNG but I don't "like" it.

I just finished gathering my 2nd set of atmas for my 2nd weapon. Back to myth grind.

[A_Magical_Unicorn_Rider]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coRtxAZh6V4

I think it's pretty good tips and opinion and I agree with it. I can stand the atma RNG but I don't "like" it.

I just finished gathering my 2nd set of atmas for my 2nd weapon. Back to myth grind.

Congrats. I'm on 11/12 of my second set. And this is what makes or breaks people: this questline is about determination. Are you really determined to get what will "become the ultimate weapon?"

[Galan]

How very self centered and egocentric defenders of this quest are. You are delusional if you think this is a real grind. I have done real grinds and they were way more interesting then this so called "grind". There is nothing challenging at all about farming fates. Just stating that you had to "manage" tp pools and such on low level fates is ludicrous.

You want to make a time sink fine, i don't mind but this time sink is beyond pathetic and boring and only services those that have too much time to play which includes myself. I have my animus and its absolutely NOTHING special. Totally not worth time spent and that was less then some cause i got "luckier" then some.

You can shout all you want about i did it the "work" so should you but if people get sick of stupid quests like this and quit playing, your so called work goes bye bye cause no players = no money = bye bye game.

[Kabooa]

It's just too bad your whole post was ruined by this one statement. Why worry about what everyone else has? Why not just be happy with what YOU have?

You're making an assumption here.

But it wouldn't be the first time, so no one's surprised.

[Callisto913]

Think of it this way. You are given a pistol, put into a pitch black shooting range. A target is placed somewhere at the far end, and you have to hit it 12 times. You take a shot. There's a chance you might hit it, but odds are you aren't. Now, every time you miss, the target is moved. You don't know where you shot at, or where it is now. This is what grinding for the Atmas is like. Yes, some people will get lucky and finish it quickly, but most won't. Something as simple as a progress bar would have made this a lot easier to deal with because without a clear cut goal, you're just shooting in the dark.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

I wonder how one would try to show these concepts as fun to someone who never played an MMO before

[Duuude007]

I wonder how one would try to show these concepts as fun to someone who never played an MMO before

By not trying to. They will decide what is fun to them, and then do that. It is not our place to define for others what should be fun.

[Vesuvias]

By not trying to. They will decide what is fun to them, and then do that. It is not our place to define for others what should be fun.

then why are you and those who defend this quest saying it is awesome and should stay the same so you can have some sort of elitist show of "skill" (though most of the guys i know in game are just like galan and think it was a total wast of time)

[Duuude007]

then why are you and those who defend this quest saying it is awesome and should stay the same so you can have some sort of elitist show of "skill" (though most of the guys i know in game are just like galan and think it was a total wast of time)

If people consider it as fun, then did you ever consider that it has a valid place in the game? I don't consider pvp fun, but that doesnt mean I am the best person to suggest its removal or complete overhaul. Yet here you are, trying to do the same to this.

This is fun for me and clearly many others, and you want to dictate to me that it is not fun and therefore they should change it to cater to your wants instead of our's?