ATMA DROP RATES ARE BS

[RiceisNice]

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> "Dont like it, dont do it" is probably the worse excuse for game design. We might as well just slam that into any content that are causing players grief whether it be difficulty or design. There's not much else to say about that.

> What is the intent making any FATEs in the area be eligible for an atma, let alone throwing you into low level areas like LLN and WT? The general census was that it is to help keep low level area FATES booming and going. It's the most efficient way speed-wise, but it's counter-productive to the design of FATEs to begin with. I'm not helping anyone but myself by tagging and leaving a FATE for the sake of getting more cleared in a timeframe

> How is "Upgrading" the relic weapon any different from replacing a raid drop or tomestone weapon? Unless it ends up being on par with current end-raid tier or being better (which has never been the case), the point is kind of moot other than for lore reasons (which is also pretty terrible at least for the Atma, not sure if I mentioned it here)

> "Step on the toes of players who already earned their atma". This is the iffy thing... Just how much "Effort" did every player put into Atma? There are probably people who got theirs within the week of release, if not days, yet you have people who spent weeks or more and still not see an atma. It gets pretty damn demoralizing and frustrating when someone randomly strolls along and gets an Atma on their first fate when you've spent weeks into that one. Have I not already pissed off some of my FC members and people who got their atma weeks later, if they even got it?

>If I didn't mention it in this thread already, the Atma portion is just utterly pointless, especially when the Animus Book and Novus scrolls are so much more engaging. They give you a weapon with supposedly new found powers, only it has the same stats as your zenith and even losing the cosmetic glow.

And lastly, this is specifically for the atma portion as I mentioned. The RNG, the poorly worded lore, the reward, just....everything about it. I probably wouldn't have too much of a problem with if it just made a little bit more sense in comparison to the other steps of the relic questline.

[Appleh4x]

I spent 43 hours on one atma before giving up, finally doing them again, spent another few hours grinding fates for that same atma before I got it. The next atma took me 45 minutes, then 17 hours for the one after that. I have half of them now and probably already spent 4x longer than the average person who got all 12 already. Gathering atmas is HORRIBLE design and is really making me not even want to play this game. Btw once I finally got that atma I wasn't happy for seeing it, my mind was too dull at that point, I was just relieved I could finally leave that god forsaken zone.

[Eggnook24]

8/12 after two weeks, 3 hours a night. The grind is real. But it's a mental exercise, something I can say "I spent 90 hours doing the same thing over and over for a shiny."

[DarkerOrange]

tbh, I think the animus fates are far worse than the atma grind. at least you are doing something for the atma, as opposed to just sitting in a zone waiting for a fate that has a 3-4 hour respawn timer...(I am aware I could level alts etc, but I currently don't have any that can lvl in the areas I need for the fates).

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

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Mmm, whole post felt so good I might need a cigarette after. And I don't smoke!

Well said, all around. SE made it clear to me: Relic is not my cup off tea, post-Zenith. And more than that, FATES were never all that interesting to me anyways, and I'm tired of being force-fed the FATE system, even if they pretty it up, lavish me with reward incentives and call it "The Hunt". . . Pass me a Gerolt/tome weapon and point me to the Coils/future high endgame raids.

[Black91CRX]

Stick with it. You're definitely not gonna get a drop if you give up. For every atma that took me days, another dropped fairly quickly.

[Eggnook24]

Yay, got my 1000 fate achievement. At 9/12, hopefully won't have to do another 1000 to get the last 3.

Keep on swimming, keep on swimming.....

[Empressia]

> "Step on the toes of players who already earned their atma". This is the iffy thing... Just how much "Effort" did every player put into Atma? There are probably people who got theirs within the week of release, if not days, yet you have people who spent weeks or more and still not see an atma. It gets pretty damn demoralizing and frustrating when someone randomly strolls along and gets an Atma on their first fate when you've spent weeks into that one. Have I not already pissed off some of my FC members and people who got their atma weeks later, if they even got it?

Aw cute naw pls explain to us how is that any different from free oils, sands, n UAT being handed over to the non leet hordes?

[brdlyrcr]

I have spent 30 hours in the last week and not one atma drop. This is ridiculous, if i were getting something in return like say being able to level another class it wouldn't be so bad. Square Enix plz fix this it is really sad spending 5 hours a day and nothing in return for my efforts. To all you elitists i dont want it for nothing I am not a Liberal I want to work for it but this is kind of rediculous. If SE does increase the drop rates I would say give the people who got it on the lower drop rates something for their effort so everyone is happy. The idea i have is give them maybe another full set of atma for a another class that way everyoone is happy. This is just crazy how bad the drop rates are, it kind of reminds me of Star Wars Galaxies for the Holocrons for the Jedi Master Cloak. I remember farming all day there for the holocrons but at least i was getting something out of it. I was getting gear i could Reverse Engineer to make money.

[CodeCass]

This might be the saltiest thread on the forum...