ATMA DROP RATES ARE BS

[Skeet]

Sacrifice an atma to the RNG Gods and they will bless you with bountiful amounts of atma. Do it.

[Kageru77]

I dunno.. i got 6 atmas yesterday, and did one fate this morning before work and got another.

[Rombus]

I'm 7/12 started Friday night did 112 FATES! Sucks for people who don't have the time or patience! They can increase the rate a little bit my friend spent 40hrs total farming and he only has 2. RNG is a bitch sometimes

[DarkerOrange]

IMO there is nothing wrong with the drop rates. Yes, it can be annoying to spend a few hours farming FATEs and getting nothing, but having just got my final ATMA, (8 days, about 2 hours farming per day), it is totally worth it: the sense of achievement for sticking at it is pretty good

[DarkerOrange]

If you don't like it, don't do it, lol. Why people think endless whining on a forum is going to help I have no idea, lol.

[RiceisNice]

If you don't like it, don't do it, lol. Why people think endless whining on a forum is going to help I have no idea, lol.

Because that's how change happens. Sure you see it as "endless whining", but when dies it not become that? Especially important when it's concerning outdated game designs (like RNG drops, long winded attunements/pre-requites). I know players who still have not touched ST because no one queues for labyrinth, ever. Some of them have suggested making a roulette for the Crystal Tower series (I mean you have it for main scenario which is only two different raids), is that them whining that they can't get a party to clear labyrinth to unlock ST?

And it's part of the relic questline; It gets expanded and honestly it's not something that should be ignored for future patches if it's causing that much of an artificial blockade for progress. If the only justification for this is "if you don't like it, don't do it", then what happens if it comes to the point that Coil 3 or future raids are just utter garbage, not just for you but as the general consensus from the playerbase?

Or maybe the next tier of HA drops work on a token system where you'd need 10 Unidentifiable tombstones to trade in for the weapon, and each tomestone is specific to each of the nine (soon to be ten). The bosses also drop material like Golden Dodo eggs and Maximum Powder, and it is a weekly clear.

[Aurelle_Delacroix]

ATMA does suck, and after only getting like 2 ATMA after forever grinding I was pretty much done with it. However, since hunts have come out it's a nice distraction since my FC always shouts them out. So while ATMA grinding (at 9/12 now) I just leave and do hunts and then Return to the ATMA area I was in. Not to mention getting in queue for ST (UAT/Oil of Time anyone). So there's plenty of stuff to do now to distract you from the ATMA grind.

[EricCartmenez]

I haven't had problems with queues for Labyrinth on our server (Siren), but I will say that one needs to be prepared for a ton of wipes. Even if your party is prepared, there are 2 others ready to make the experience a little too long than it needs to be. With the value of 200 tomes, it was a clear winner for many, but as more and more people (myself included) use the hunts as a way to get more myth tomes (I max out almost daily), those numbers seem to be dwindling fast. I will admit that it's a whole lot easier to max yourself out through them.

Even as lucky as I am with atma drops, I have no interest in re-doing the entire thing and then another atma weapon on its way to Animus and Novus. Ugh! I have to admit that it's less tedious than the Minecraft punching trees to get the wood and get the wood to build a house stuff.

[Seryl199]

My atma grind was fairly long. After getting a couple as soon as they came out, I stagnated, got annoyed, and stopped doing them. When I tried to get back into it, it took over a week of grinding hours a day for my next atma, and once I got it, I decided to approach atma more casually. Instead of grind grind grind, I decided I would just do fates on my downtime, waiting for queues to pop or if I didn't have much time left in my play session to do anything else.

Even if you only get to one fate today, that's another chance at an atma. You don't even need a gold, just run in and start whacking mobs. I get that atmas aren't fun, and they're a plainly designed time sink, but if you're really interested in the relic line, you're gonna have to knuckle down and keep chipping away at it. You're working towards an i110 weapon that isn't going to be obsolete any time soon. In fact, once you have it, it'll probably be your primary weapon through much of 2.4, unless you're a hardcore raider, in which case you'd already have a high allag weapon. I don't feel the myth grind is too prohibitive afterwards either, as I often cap myth tomes once or twice between each trial of the braves, not even doing hunts or anything different from my usual playstyle.

[RiceisNice]

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The much more accessible unweathered weapon (thanks to ST having tomestones and hunts giving sands) is just as good as the novus (save for some classes due to stat allocation). Whose to say that the next lineup of weapons won't be just as easy to get access to compared to the next tier of weapons? Just the Atma portion alone is horsecrap when it comes to this.

If all you're doing is whacking a mob for bronze and then running off, then it's pretty much a counter-intuitive game design for Atma. It's not helping lowbies who actually need the FATE; it's just more terrible game design.

And on that line, it took me 3 weeks of spending 3-4 hours a day doing FATEs for all 12, that was around 350 or so. The rates are not suddenly going to change if I just did one FATE a day, and assuming the same stars would allign for ie, it'd take me a year to finish Atma at that; I don't get why you'd even suggest one Fate/day for this to justify the low drop rates.

And I don't think anyone ever thinks the myths are a problem (now anyway, its so accessible because of hunts). Like I mentioned before the primary target of all the haze is Atma and Atma only.