ATMA DROP RATES ARE BS

[Yumi_umi]

Decided to try my luck again.
Spent my evening ( past 12am )
And went down the list.
Got 6 atmas in 4-5 hours and still ready to get the others in 1 sitting lol.
Seriously with this much drops it feels so trashy to see other ppl get no drops yet.
Probably cuz yoshi saw my post above and decided to boost my atma drops for a day.

[Kenji1134]

As Yoshi said, its entirely RNG dependent.

Here's my story.
Took me about a week, maybe 2-3 hours each day, to get my first 5 atma. Dont remember this part that well, because I could not play for the next 2 weeks due to finals.
Got back into it and back to farming atma. Lets see what readily comes to mind...
Upper La Nosc, 7.5 hours straight.
Southern Thanalan, 2 days... probably 12 hours or more.
Central Thanalan... 1 fate... beat 1 fate and got the drop >.>
Eastern Thanalan, 10-20 fates.
Western La Nosc... I think its Western, the Aleport area... 7 hours again for the last one.

So, yeah... its entirely RNG dependent. For what its worth, during the 2 days of farming for Atma of the Scorpion, I did try the "JP" method of following the server time clock for a few hours... nada.

Personally, though getting 2 of my atma after 1 and 10-20 fates is nice, it is overwhelming counterbalanced by my spending nearly 3 days worth of time to get 3 other atma.
If it is possible, I would rather get rid of the rng component and simplify the system in the following manner:

Jalzahn brings some of his equipment with him, and gives you a set of 30-40-50 vials, devs pick one... These vials will draw out and collect the essence of slain enemies from fates. Beat a fate, fill a vial, and each vial WILL be indexed with the appropriate zone name, so you need to do all 12 zones.
Once all of the vials are filled, you can bring them back to Jalzahn, who will mix them into a semi-stable crystallizing structure... but it is incomplete. You must now RETURN to the area where you filled the vials, and complete one more fate in the area to enable the semi-stable crystallizing structure to uh... fully crystallize... and become to atma for the zone.

Of course, feel free to keep the drop rate of the atma themselves where it is. This way someone "could" get lucky and get their atma quickly, while someone who doesnt get lucky can do 51 fates, and get it.

51*12, 612 fates is still quite a grind... but it will be a grind with a sense of progression, not simply praying to the unforgiving RNG gods.

[skho01]

Personally, I've given up hope on a fix on non-sense. I'm 6/12 in and I've tried to do more fates. After 30 mins of grinding, I loose hope and resign.

I used to log in 3-4 hrs a day and enjoy every second of it. Even waiting for a titan Ex wipe fest party through pf is more enjoyable than ATMA grind. At least I know if I beat the encounter, I am getting closer to that i90 ex primal weapon and a good 1/8 chance at one of the earrings. Now I log in for ~30 mins, do my daily expert roulette, and log out to play D3 ROS. The reason is because the aforementioned ATMA grind is depressing, Levi Ex has near 0 chance of even seeing, let alone getting a mirror, and T9 is so far out of reach for a causal like me. I foresee this diminishing time investment to continue for me.

There are many options out there, perhaps your time is better spent elsewhere. Personally, I find the RNG from D3 to be quite enjoyable. You may get BIS with ultra bad stats. Its garbage, but at least you're progressing a little bit.

[sylent09]

I honestly wouldn't mind if the myth farm wasn't needed as well. All this time to get the drops for an ilvl 100 weapon that isn't any better

[Coth_X]

. -.

What I don't understand is all the people trying to counter with "well the animus will get upgraded..." and so? There will be new coil and primal weapons too, for those who don't want to do the time sink weapon.

Also lol at this being ffxi-2. No, this isn't ffxi, one little piece of content that is a legit time sink, and only one part is rng based, does not make this ffxi-2. Go play ffxi and take an almost literal year to get a mythic weapon.

[Galan]

How is at all fair that some have to spend 100s of more hours then others at farming a very boring fate grind? You cannot come in here saying i got mine so your just too lazy to grind yours, doesn't work that way. And not everyone has endless hours to grind fates let alone the myths required to marginally upgrade weapons. Just because some can play ALOT more means they deserve to get weapon upgrade?

Most people i know are not even bothering with the silly grind. They are just waiting till it gets nerfed. What great game design where most don't touch it cause of its stupidity. Didn't know game designers were striving for long boring grinds in game.

I did the grind and I'm not doing it again for another class cause it's beyond stupid boring. Hell i have more time then most and still skipped upgrading shield for my paladin. 3k less myths to get in dungeons I've already done too many freakin times. I have played games with longer grinds then this one. This grind is an awful bore.

[Coth_X]

It's "fair" because there is no actual need to do it. IF these weapons were the best, absolute best weapons in the game, then maybe that point would carry more weight.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Well you will need them soon for future content or be prepared to get kicked by groups who will feel you're dead weight for being undergeared.

[Angry_Goat]

I was using my Relic (without it even being Zenith) for a long time and NEVER once got kicked for it. If you're doing high level content you'll group up prior to queing, so they'll let you know "Hey you ABSOLUTELY need this Atma/Animus weapon"

It's definitely not required to get. I can play the game happily without an Atma weapon. I'm assuming after a while they'll make it easier, and than have it really extremely tough to level the relic again. You can get other items to compensate for not getting this.


For those of you quitting BECAUSE of the Atma Drops, *GOOD RIDDANCE*! We don't need whiners hogging up the game.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

And being hostile is the way to reply?