This game is just way to hard...

[Doo]

It does matter. Also DPS LB is the "optimal" alternative doesn't mean you're forced to do it every time.

Come on guy, you play this game too. How often do you even have LB3 up for healer to save everyone? Besides Garuda and Titan, hardly ever. If you do use healer LB3, then pretty much you're just messing around and made your party have to spend gil for repairs

I like that I don't have to spend hours collecting 200 necklaces or 100 ores to get a single spell... I mean back then it was fun but now? I can't really find the hours to spend like that so I rather be bland and straightforward, using some of my hours than to use a ton of hours to get anywhere really.

You're not doing anything different in this game. You're grinding dungeons to farm myths/soldiery/etc. You're grinding Fates for Atma. MMO's will have grind regardless of what type because new content will never be released fast enough to satisfy the player base and the only way to keep players playing is to create time sinks. So it just becomes whether the time sink is fun to you or not. You get items faster in FFXIV but the items you usually get becomes outdated in less than a day or week. Kill Garuda bland weapon drops, then next kill Ifrit replaced the bland Gar weapon with the bland Ifrit weapon. You can skip like 10 levels or so of gear while leveling up and heck you don't even need to get your AF armor.

Grind isn't what FFXI fans are asking for anyways. It's more diversity and complexity. Everyone in FFXIV basically has the same gear and same rotations.

[Gormogon]

Come on guy, you play this game too. How often do you even have LB3 up for healer to save everyone?

More than many in Turn 1 and Levi EX.

[Lillia]

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I don't just farm all day like others might do, I don't even do my beastmen quests let alone roulette everyday. I mostly run around, take screenies of areas and certain aspects of some spots I may find, craft, fish, gather, garden, sell stuff, go around to see my friends, talk to them, etc. I still have things to level and meld tbh so just capping via farms isn't my sole interest as a player. .-. (Yes all of that is fun to me and I am not Atma farming, don't need it anymore.)

There was more that I was gonna say but I found that I could careless to argue opinions here, why not just agree you like certain things about FFXI and just agree that some people do like FFXIV, how it is and how it takes less time for some stuff as well? By the way, Idc if you say gear is replaced because tbh, while FFXI has had over 3 expansions, FFXIV has had none yet. It's way too soon to say anything other than whats based off of two much needed patches, which had some content that should of been in game from launch or soon after. (CT, DF Chimera and Hydra etc.) :/

(Yes, I will still feel like there are downfalls in FFXI just as you feel there are downfalls in FFXIV. But lets just agree to disagree and leave it at that like adults?)

[Doo]

More than many in Turn 1 and Levi EX.

Maybe believable if you got bad parties often but if they were that bad then your lb wouldn't of matter since your party would lack the dps to do it.

I don't just farm all day like others might do, I don't even do my beastmen quests let alone roulette everyday. I mostly run around, take screenies of areas and certain aspects of some spots I may find, craft, fish, gather, garden, sell stuff, go around to see my friends, talk to them, etc.

(Yes, I will still feel like there are downfalls in FFXI just as you feel there are downfalls in FFXIV. But lets just agree to disagree and leave it at that like adults?)

You can do that stuff in FFXI as well as most mmos. You don't have to just grind necklaces all day. Can agree to disagree any time. You replied to me first and I clarify my pov. I can still enjoy FFXIV even though I feel it's flawed like how I can enjoy Dragon Age 2 and FF13 even though I felt the previous is better.